2 Students Face Expulsion For Sharing An Asthma Inhaler

MONUMENT, Colo. (CBS4) – She says she was just trying to help a friend, but now two students from Monument face expulsion after one loaned another her asthma inhaler.

Alyssa McKinney thought her friend, Breana Crites, was having an asthma attack during gym class. It happened at Lewis-Palmer Middle School. Both Eighth-graders were suspended for 10 days.

The principal told CBS4 he couldn’t talk about the case but said it comes down to two students sharing prescription drugs, which is against school policy.

The girls told CBS4 that even though they are facing stiff consequences, they’d do it all over again.

“I thought I was having and asthma attack and she’s seen people have asthma attacks,” Crites said. “So she thought I was having one too and she was worried. She’s like, ‘Just use this, it will help you.’ ”

Crites suffered an allergic reaction to the inhaler and had to visit the school nurse. The principal found out what happened and suspended both girls.

The principal sent a letter home to McKinney’s parents.

“I’m extending the suspension for five more days … and recommending expulsion from the Lewis-Palmer School District,” the letter stated.

The letter claims the students violated the school’s drug policy.

“The inhaler is actually a prescription drug,” the Lewis-Palmer School District superintendent said.

The superintendent wants the students to learn from the incident.

“They could have an adverse side-effect that they’ve never thought about,” he said. “I think, absolutely, the suspension is appropriate.”

“I would never give someone a medication and risk them dying,” McKinney said.

Crites doesn’t have asthma.

Students and parents believe McKinney did the right thing by trying to help her classmate. They don’t think the punishment is fair.

“It’s not like they were maliciously doing it. She was in a panic, her friend thought that it was an asthmatic attack, and so they did it,” Crites’ mother said.

“I missed high school registration. I’m missing out on all of this because I tried to help someone,” McKinney said.

The superintendent said the expulsion will be determined when school officials get all the details.

  • Drug Dealer

    Umm,,, You DID give someone a medication and they DID risk dying from you giving it to them. There’s a reason that it is a PRESCRIPTION only medication. So just saying that shows how flawed your thought process is.

    Those rules are in place for a reason. And there is both school nurses and Paramedics available with the right education and the right medication.

    Why is this so hard to understand? Are there some prescription medications that would be worthy or a suspension? I guess it’s a good thing that some other student didn’t try to fix the allergic reaction using their prescription Epi-Pen!

    • JamesTk

      “There’s a reason that it is a PRESCRIPTION only medication.” Try finding and buying Primatene mist in the coming year.

      Oh most definitely, to keep costs high and drug companies rich. Try shopping for . oops,

    • KW-37

      Inhalers can be bought over the counter now. They are about as dangerous as tylenol.

      What’s next? Suspend a kid for sharing her PB&J sandwhich with someone allergic to penut butter?

    • Geo

      This should have been a teachable moment for the 8th grade. Instead it has become a teachable moment for the parents in that school district. Your district is being run by an administrator that is more concerned about legal liability then your children’s education.

      • rickyrico

        That sounds right to me.

    • Stevens

      Where was the school to come to this girls (having the asthma attacxk) rescue, if in fact the prima teem mist was priscription and the school was unprepared should not the liability lie on the school for not being prepared?

    • John Fox

      It’s not the school’s job you idiot. It’s the parent’s job. Let the parents decide what punishment is necessary. That’s the problem with all of the liberals out there, they want the government to raise their kids so they don’t have the messy problem of doing it themselves.

    • Erik Weiss

      you have got to be a liberal, expecting the authorities to be the only ones to help. You have obviously never had an asthma attack. When people are in need, you help them. This wasn’t 2 kids sharing designer drugs, it was a medical condition. What should she have done, let her friend suffer? She took action, good for her, the principal should have simpy talked to her about the risks, but expulsion? Really?

    • Daisy

      School nurses and paramedics have ‘the right education and the right medication’?! Ha!!! In fact, hahahahahahahahaha …..

      The girl w/asthma understands that an untreated asthmatic attack can be lethal. As such, she behaved far sensibly than the reactive school adminstrators. BTW, why wasn’t the gym teacher doing anything for the student? And who determined that the other girl had an ‘allergic reaction’ to the inhaler? Sounds bogus.

    • darth

      Umm… you are a moron. Where did you get the risk of dying out of the story. She had a reaction- most likely not an allergic one and the media just got it wrong- because if it was an allergy she would have had to visit the hospital, by ambulance, and not the school nurse. And guess what, had she gone to the hospital with asthma symptoms they would have treated her with… drum roll please…. Albuterol, the same thing that is in the inhaler.

    • Airmail56

      Explain your silly point of view to the parents of a dead child.

    • tnmccoy

      In this case, apparently you’d have been happier if the child died without quick help—even if it wasn’t needed as determined by later, cooler adult heads. Too bad you can’t accept a well-intentioned young girl in a stressful situation. It’s not as if she was sharing pills.

    • dumbscoo


      Most school shootings the kids were on prescription drugs like columbine.

      That issue never get raised.

    • John Clark

      B.S. Those rules are in place because no one in administration and teaching wants to use the little thing called COMMON SENSE. Sounds like you are in that some boat.

    • Brett Hatfield

      this is total BS. I would pound that principal to a ref stoppage. They will be getting an earful. Fire all those ass holes. Did you see the snug look on his face??

    • Rico

      Right, so the only responsible thing to do was to EXPEL – not merely suspend – the girls from school. Now, it’s off to “alternative school” or god knows where, so they can begin their education in how to negotiate life in the jungle after you have been blacklisted from mainstream society. Wow, this is exactly the kind of professional educator I would want to make a sacrificial example of my kids, in hopes of scaring someone else’s kids straight. Enjoy your new life girls and let that be a lesson for you.

    • nobama

      Dying from an inhaler?}
      What drugs have you been taking?

      • craig

        It is no joke, inhalers have some pretty potent drugs, and there are many kinds. The girls made a very big mistake, the length of the suspensions is too much though.

      • faceOfReason

        If I were pushed into a corner as these students and parents are, I would sue the PE teacher AND the principal for not providing enough supervision to notice that a student in their care was having respiratory problems. Another thing to consider, the asthmatic student has probably been trained to use her inhaler as a “rescue” inhaler, which is what she was trying to do when helping her friend. There is no crime here except for the fact that there was not nearly enough supervision in the class in the first place.

      • Brian

        The increase in deaths with Salmeterol is because the drug is too good at it’s job- it hides the symptoms of asthma extremely well, but doesn’t prevent progression of the disease. Thus when you miss a dose and have an attack, it’s much worse than you expect, and can be lethal. It’s still used, and is an excellent medication, but now you’re required to use steroids in conjunction with it to help prevent progression.

        As to her having an allergic reaction, sure, it’s possible, and if it happened it could potentially be lethal. But so could an asthma attack, much more commonly. Asthma is so prevalent that most people don’t regard it as a danger, but without prompt treatment it can be very lethal, very fast.

        Expelling these girls because of one of them did what she thought necessary to save the other’s life, regardless of whether there was any real risk, is absurd. Sure, some prescription drugs are abused. Rescue inhalers are not among them. There is a tremendous difference between oxycontin or valium and levalbuterol or beclomethasone. Besides that, possession or use of a prescription medication without having a prescription is not actually illegal. The only limitation on prescription medications is their sale.

        Just because a drug is Rx-only does not mean it is a scheduled substance, (the use of which without a prescription IS illegal) and in fact, the common asthma medications are not scheduled. Why? Because steroids and beta agonists, while quite effective at stopping an asthma attack, aren’t that pleasant to use. So it’s no different in essence than if the girl had shared some aspirin- which incidentally can also cause allergic reactions. Admittedly, some schools prohibit even that, but not to the point of expulsion.

        Basically, this is absurd.

        Now as Mr. Moser’s comment. Yes, people way overuse the term “allergic reaction.” Most folks aren’t “allergic” to dairy, they just can’t digest it. But having an allergic reaction doesn’t mean you die- there varying levels of severity. Everything from getting a runny nose around cats, to going into shock (and yes, perhaps dying) after eating a peanut. She may, or may not, have had an allergic reaction. Who knows. Bottom line is, she was being a good samaritan and doing the right thing. She broke no laws. So have a talk with them, and put them back in class. Expulsion is for kids selling heroin, or giving freshmen swirlies. Not for someone doing the right thing.

        Oh- and I’m a medical student, so yes- I do know what I’m talking about.

      • John Moser

        If someone had an actual allergic reaction to an inhalant, they would be dead. Allergic is like addicted…imbeciles(often media types) use it without really knowing what it means.

      • Dave

        The article linked is in respect to long-term increase of death with the use of long-term asthma medication, not a rescue inhaler. This impacts only asthmatics who have to decide what preventative medication to take.
        Honestly, I even doubt the reaction was allergic, she probably had her heart beating fast and was worried something else was happening and felt she should tell the nurse about the inhaler just in case.
        Regardless, the focus of the punishment should be education and learning from poor decisions. Restricting children from education for immature decision making seems counterintuitive.

      • John Herbster

        Yes, people die from inhalers.


        I’m not saying that I agree in any way, shape, or form with suspending these girls. I just wanted to point out that this does happen.

    • Frank

      You can purchase the inhalers over the counter without a prescription. The principal is an ID10T.

      • rickyrico

        No you can’t. Albuterol is prescription only. The OTC inhaler, which was pure ephinepherine, was removed due to its danger.

      • Sheri

        I’m a pharmacist and I think the punishment is excessive. If either of those girls were my child I would withdraw them and get them into a homeschool program asap. Stupidity like this, along with underperformance, is why some of us have long ago taken our children out of the public schools.

      • Tadhg O'Seaghdha

        @Larry Stimely

        RIGHT ON, BROHEIM! Check the stats for any school of “Edumacation:” around the country and you’ll find an overwhelming correlation between Ed majors and the lowest quintile of the student body GPA. And very few of them start in the School of Ed, most wash out of Arts and Sciences. When you can’t hack being a history or English major….

        And, of course, the fact that this was a unionized, gubmint school. They put union morons in charge of teachers that ride to school on the short bus and they wonder why the US has such low math and science scores. Sheesh.

      • Larry Stimely

        It’s been my experience that most of the people in college to get degrees in Education are there because they’re either lazy or simply not intellectually sharp enough to do anything else. I know that was the case twenty five years ago when I was in college and I’m sure things are at least that bad today.

        I’ve NEVER known an educrat who held a Certified Flight Instructor rating. I’ve known plenty of engineering, hard sciences, math and management folks who had one but NEVER an Ed major. They’re slow, weak, plodding…doing a job no one else wants to do in an intellectual ghetto.

        I’m sure they’re not all dumb as bricks but boy…my own personal experiences plus what I’ve read here makes me wonder.

      • LTCB

        Frank, like the comment. John below, you’re an ______ (fill in the blank). Doctors are only “practicing medicine” themselves. NONE of them has much more of a clue about your body and it’s functions than you. That’s why they have to ask so many questions. THEY DON’T KNOW. There are “statistics” about treatments and medicines and doctors kill people EVERY DAY. So, don’t give anyone the garbage about “practicing medicine without a license”. You do that every day if you do ANYTHING for yor health. Prescription drugs do have interactions. BUT, even your beloved doctors mess that up frequently. Suspension is not call for. An educational assembly for the WHOLE SCHOOL would be more appropriate.

      • Perrin Ehlinger

        No, you can’t. The only otc asthma inhaler was Primatene Mist, which the EPA outlawed for using Ozone damaging propellants and sales ended in December of 2011.

      • john

        This was not one of those over the counter inhalers, it was a prescription inhaler. Also, Crites did not have asthma. She was probably really winded, and her friend decided to practice medicine without a license, and gave her a prescription strength inhaler, and ended up causing her to suffer an allergic reaction. You could face criminal charges for something like that. I think the principal’s actions are warranted.

    • CommentsAreSilly

      Looks like someone has never been in 8th grade before..LOL

      • Rick

        Every time I had to go to the middle school for my kids, I could “feel” the drama oozing from it.

      • Kurt

        This should be a learniing experiance. Not a suspension. I am sure that neither girls thaught any harm just wanted to help. I know they were prescription drugs and you should not share you drugs with anyone. However, I am not a drug user and I have used a pill or two from a trusted individual. Was it right maybe not. However at the time it helped untill I went to my doctor. I believe the priinciple was wrong. I bet he has Nazi uniform hidden in the closet. Hopefully someone or a group takes him outside and teach him a lession. Iam sure he was not perfect when he was that age. We all did wrong when we were at that age
        and learned from the experance. Maybe he didnt maybe he walks on water.
        Sure hope eh sees that e-mail

      • Gibbs Bentley

        Just another reason to get your children out the government camps that are run by mentally deficient morons. These degenerates are paid with your wealth that is extracted through taxation with the threat of deadly force if you don’t play their inflated, undeserved salaries.


      • Tom in NY

        Sounds like the person in question never made it that far.

      • Brian Cunningham

        Or spent three years in eighth grade.

      • Mike


      • BadPenny

        I wish I could thumbs up you on that one! Great line!

    • Keith Aitken

      Just call or email the Superinedent & ask him to change his mind….Superintendent of Schools Borman, John 719-785-4200 JBorman@lewispalmer.org

    • Wayne Hall

      Rules are in place to help guide our decisions. So, don’t break the rules to save a life? There is this thing between your ears, it is called a brain.

      Rules can not cover every situation, and if you thing always following the rules is the right thing to do then you are choosing to be stupid. If you ignore intent, and the situation, and only look at the rule you fail to think in anything that is a resonable way.

      If schools can’t reason, then how can they teach it?

      This kind of thinking make a big case for home schooling!

    • Mark

      You are a moron.

    • Mark Mangus Sr

      You sound like a principal that can’t exercise common sense.

    • Claudia Pieroni

      An EXPULSION? What kind of a moron are you? This is a typical knee jerk liberal mindset reaction to what was an innocent well meaning attempt to help a person in distress. That is why some states have the GOOD SMARATAN law. It is designed to remove the fear of being unjustly punished when your intent was to do good in a medical situation. I am soooo fed up with the stupid mindset of these so called educators in our society.

    • Bobby

      They are 8th graders! We had an unofficial pot smoking area and an official tobacco smoking area at our 8th grade school. Seems we were a bit more tolerant and enlightened in south Alabama in the 1970s than these idiot yankee school marms are today.

    • englanddg

      “Alyssa McKinney thought her friend, Breana Crites, was having an asthma attack during gym class.”

      Where was the teacher?

      • MaggieMoo

        THAT is the exact question that should be being shouted to the rooftops in this case. Forget the girls – one thought her friend was is such distress that she felt moved to try to save her life. Even if the actions weren’t the correct ones, good for her for her quick thinking and compassionate nature. The REAL question that the school district is doing an excellent job detracting from is where was the gym teacher that they didn’t notice a student was in such a condition to begin with? The best things these kids parents could do at this point is threaten a negligance lawsuit, agreeing to drop it if the suspensions are dropped as well. I’m not a fan of lawsuits but the threat of one, which brings the attention to the real issue, should be enough to knock some sense into the administration.

    • Ed Taylor

      OMG! Schoo; officials are becoming such idiots!

      The kids got an expulsion, but the Principal & Superintendant are bumbling fools worthy of ridicule. They have no place near kids, because they do not know how to deal with them.

      I believe the voters in this school district should demand the Principal & Superintendant be fired. If the school board refiuses, then vote them out of office.

      This is a prime example of what happens when liberals take over schools.

      Kick their sorry butts to the curb!!!!!!

    • Tom Kirkman

      Colorado has a good samaritan laws. This should fall under that law, which means that the suspension and possible expulsion are illegal.

    • skoch

      Drug Dealer,

      Get back to the back alleys where you belong. An eitghth grader is 13-14. A prime target for bacxk ally deals. But a 14 year old panicing and trying everything they could to save a girl friend. (After all her personal experience, as an asthmatic was when you can’t breath, you use the inhailer.

      Your attitude is exactly why when witnesses refused to take the effort to help someone in need. They are afraid they will be punished, either by the fascist authorities, or an ambulance chasing attorney.

      People like you hear a woman screaming rape…and close the window so you won’t have to hear her.

      Hit the bricks, and don’t you come back no more no more.

    • arguethefacts

      The epi-en would have worked. An inhaler has epinephrin and so does an EPI pen? Show that you don’t know what you’re talking about. I have asthma and have an inhaler and an epi-pen.

      Those who follow the rules blindly are called Republicans who like the rulers to tell them what to do, and they don’t want to think for themselves.

      If you are having a major asthma attack you have about five minutes until you’re dead. It might take 3-4 minutes for someone to go get the school nurse, for her/him to get there.

      Hold your breath for five minutes and see how you feel about 2 1/2 minutes. A person having an asthma attack cannot breath. A puff on an inhaler provides instant relief (an epi-pen maybe a few second longer).

      Obviously the person with the inhaler had asthma too an knew what to do.

      I don’t want people who bow down to authority to be protecting me. They don’t think outside the box. It’s by the rulebook or nothing. People die in those instances.

    • SAG

      You are an idiot. Go occupy something…………

    • Doubltap

      Typical thought process of a communitarian tool, liberal POS.

    • f the principal

      she should shove the inhaler up the principals butt and watch him suffer and die from it.

      • englanddg

        Nah…if she shoved it up there he might find he breathes easier.

    • NoMoreRX

      An asthma inhaler should not be a PRESCRIPTION drug in the first place. Would you rather the girl risk ketting the other one DIE, so that she would not get in TROUBLE?

    • Reverend Richard

      Well heck, rules are rules, why not send them both to jail for 20 years each, that will learn them!

    • NCchik

      Did risk dying is pretty extreme, don’t you think. The article said the other student had an allergic reaction….could be mild for all we know. And that’s half the problem, people so ready and willing to criticize a young girl for doing something she thought would help. Had it been a real asthma attack and the friend gave her a glass of water, would that meet with your approval instead? Lighten up. They’re kids.

    • 5thcommjarhead

      Yeah 8th graders are known for their profound thought processes. An expulsion will destroy their futures. But well deserved right, because they demonstrated “flawed thinking”.

    • sag

      Very true but it’s not worthy of expulsion. Good grief!!

    • Andrew P.

      I would say sharing your OxyContin should be punishable by suspension. Sharing with criminal intent (not to get well, only to get high) should be expulsion.

      2 Girls sharing asthma inhaler because they thought it was the right thing to do, 2-day suspension. They will remember it’s wrong, and that’s that. No need for this extensive punishment.

      What would have happened if the girl had recovered due to the meds? The other would be praised for her “quick thinking”. This shouldn’t be the crisis it is. How sad.

    • kishke

      What kind of moron begins a comment with “Ummm?” The kind who believes it’s okay to expel these two girls. What an idiot.

    • trollkiller

      she was trying to save her friends life, for Gods sake…narrow minded myopic bureaucrats like you and these school personnel are Kafkaesque caricatures, nothing more

    • GregB

      You’d make a really good concentration camp guard.

    • LTCB

      Hope you don’t have a kid die from Asthma any time soon. It would be a rough lesson for you but, hey, then no one would be “breaking the rules”. You’re one of the clones that love government and think they’re the solution for reason and thought. Yes, someone could have a reaction to a medication. They could also DIE without the medication. So, if the option is to watch your friend die, I’d say we would not be friends for long. When someone is actually trying to help, however poorly that help is administered, the intent should be considered. Some retraining for both students in drug interactions and dangers would have been more appropriate than a suspension. If I was this young lady’s dad, I wouldn’t LET her attend a nanny-state operated school like this. Next time you’re drowning, I won’t throw you a log to hold on to. It isn’t “Coast Guard Approved” as a flotation device so, you MIGHT not be saved by it.

      • None of Yourbusiness

        LCTB, well said. You got my point.Army Medic, I know your point re prescription drugs, but you missed the point. They are 8th graiders. They don’t have the level of training and knowledge you do. All she saw was her friend in trouble and tired to be a “good smaritan”. LCTB hit the nail on the head, intent. These weren’t 2 girls trying to get over on the drug policy. She was legitimately trying to help her friend in distress.
        A much more appropriate “punishment” if you will is NOT a 10 day suspension for the 2 girls but an education for the whole class.Tha would put the school on solid ground, but more importantly, teach all the students the proper way to assist someone in distress.
        Regardless, the principal is a complete tool.

      • USArmyCombatMedic

        Well said. I like the analogy:

        “Next time you’re drowning, I won’t throw you a log to hold on to. It isn’t “Coast Guard Approved” as a flotation device so, you MIGHT not be saved by it

    • Skip Cook

      Likely said by someone who has never taken a risk in their life! Good little Plebe.

    • DanielH

      Do you really think this is worth ruining two people’s lives over?

    • None of Yourbusiness

      Hey Dumba$$, ever hear about “Good Samaritan’s”? Look it up. The girl was only trying to help her friend who was in distress. Obviously she didn’t know about diffferent medications to treat asthma. To her asthma was asthma, so she tried to help.
      The principle should use better judegment and discretion in vetting out “punishment”.

      • Brian

        No, actually it isn’t. Buying or selling without a prescription is illegal. Possession or use is not. Only scheduled medications (like ritalin, morphine, or modafinil) are illegal to possess without a script.

      • USArmyCombatMedic

        Actually the Good Samaritan’s Law doesn’t apply here, since sharing prescribed medication is a crime – technically…

        But I agree the punishment doesn’t fit the offense. A 1 or 2 day suspension will serve to remind her not to do that, and won’t ruin her studies either. She was only trying to help her friend, after all.

    • rjames

      Writing as the parent of a child with asthma, it’s unlikely someone would die of an asthma attack (especially a kid who is NOT asthmatic) if the school has a nurse or can make a 911 call.

      But, what would the parents do if their kid died from using someone else’s prescription medication? They would sue the school system for not controlling the other kid’s use of the medication, and they would probably win. In fact, I would bet the asthmatic girl was only allowed to carry the inhaler on the condition that only she could use it. The punishment seems too harsh to me, but this was not an insignificant action by these girls.

      • Chuck Pelto

        TO: rjames
        RE: Sooooo…..

        But, what would the parents do if their kid died from using someone else’s prescription medication? — rjames

        …what is the probability of THAT happening?

        Compare and contrast against the probability of death from no one doing ANYTHING to help someone having such an attack.

        I eagerly look forward to your reply.


        [Risk analysis is essential to every threat.]

      • the other side of the story

        the girl was not having an asthma attack. she’s not an asmathic. the parents are lying and not half the story is being told. what a farce.

    • Mary

      Tough one! My daughter had exercised induced asthma. If she were turning blue before the coach could get a medic to her, I would have thought this ‘sharer’ was a heroine.
      BUT the variable that the receiver had an allergic reaction makes it a difficult decision.
      I would give the students a warning and not a lengthy expulsion

    • BadPenny

      And she could have risk dying without it had she been having an asthma attack. Just because she “didn’t have asthma” doesn’t mean she can’t develop it at any time! There are a lot of causes of asthma that can caused sudden onset. Poorly air circulated school heating/cooling systems can be an asthma trigger in itself!

      Suspending these girls and possibly expelling them is just plain asinine! Explaining to them what they did wrong and what could happen would be far more appropriate! Had it been the other way around and the child was having an asthma attack and the second child did nothing, you would be calling for her to be charged with murder! You liberals are mentally deficient!

    • Newbern W Johnson

      Right. It was definitely an error on the part of the girl who offered the use of her inhaler to a friend whom she thought was having an asthma attack.
      How dare she try to practice medicine. She’s in the eighth grade for petes sake. She’s SUPPOSED to exercise mature judgement, not act like a scared kid.
      She should be punished big time. Absolutely. Lets destroy her life because she didn’t act like an adult.
      That’ll teach her!

    • Elizabeth Conley

      At least the child isn’t apathetic, lacking in initiative or indifferent to the suffering of her peers.

      Yes, she made a mistake, but her mistake highlights her basic good character. A good role model for adolescents would recognize that a stern warning of the risks inherent in sharing prescription medications was sufficient.

      Zero tolerance is leading to zero intelligence. It shows the low character and poor judgment of the school’s “leadership.”

      • TT

        Yes! God forbid we actually have a “teaching moment” in school! They are children and this is why they have supervision at this stage. Isn’t that what we are supposed to do? Teach these kids how to be critical thinkers?

      • macou

        Very good comment.Zero tolerance has led to zero brains. Educators are one of the main problems with our society.

    • Mark

      Breaking the rules wihtout malicoius intent does not warrent draconian punishment.

      there is no indication these girls are problem or troubled kids needing some sort of intervention. Why the severe punishment without due process?

      There is every bit of evidance this adminstrator is making an example simply because he can. the girls did go to the nurse in effect creating a confesson which gave him an “easy” target. I suspect there is all kinds of wrong going on at this school, it’ just these girls gave him an easy “example”

      I tell my kids over and over, do not invite the authorities in to your buisness these days if you can help it, YOU NEVER KNOW where it will go since LEO’s, school admins, teachers, social workers are all working hard to make criminals out of everyone it seems.

    • baron of gray matter

      You’re a moonbat.

    • patrick

      Expulsion is not the answer to this issue. Do you really think the child should be expelled from school over it? It’s not like the child won’t end up at another public school (or a private school) – so what could have been a teaching moment where both parents and students see the PhD’s the administrators have in proper action, instead becomes another reason to distrust school officials and their lack of critical thinking…

      The suspension and education was sufficient – the expulsion is just overplaying authority

    • lizzie

      OK she saved her life and they have proof. They went to a doctor and he said that her not being able to breath was WORSE than the allergic reaction to the inhaler so try to mold that into a bad story.

    • Bella

      Yeh, to heck with common sense!!!!

    • Thought Recon

      First, “Ummm” makes you sound like an idi0t. Second, Asthma is deadly so given the two possible choices of possibly watching a friend suffocate or at least TRY a medication that is used to keep that from happening, your logic is to just let them suffocate. Lastly, reeeelax man, go have a beer and get a piece. It’ll take that edge off.

    • Mooy

      What are you not getting about a panicky 8th grade girl?

      How about a warning for first offense.

      People like you make excellent fascists.

    • Japes Macfarland

      Ummm…. but common sense says that you tell the child her friend’s inhaler has prescription stuff in it that can hurt you so don’t do it again. Also, go to the doctor to find out if you have asthma, and the parents and teachers talk with the girl who shared it about how specific her meds are and that they can hurt others, and that even though she was trying to help her friend she can’t do this again.
      It is you leftists and your disgusting value system that would expel these girls. There is NO wisdom on the Left. None.

      “The bigger the government the smaller the citizen.”
      Dennis Prager

      • tumay

        Something Ron Paul would have done if he was the principal.

      • zadat

        No, it’s this war on drugs designed by conservatives that have escalated this issue into nonsense.

      • Nik Boldrini

        Right you are!

      • inverbrass

        At last, someone with common sense. Obviously not a liberal.

    • bob

      ya so what its a prescription drug and guess what inhalers cant kill you wow. In fact, some high-intensity runners who don’t have asthma use it after they run because it decreases lung inflammation. and no kid should ever be expelled for something this stupid. good luck getting into a good school with that on your record. and DRUG DEALER your the problem with America not everything is so black and white its more complicated. you need to learn your Facts and so back to staring in your neighbors window. CREEP

    • http://eleganterica.wordpress.com ElegantErica

      Agreed. How DARE these girls and their parents not realize the EXTREME RISK of their actions and then DEFEND those actions.

    • Michael

      You’re a damn fool. And from the sounds of it, you are probably one of the ‘zero-tolerance’ union progressives. Of course there should be something done but a suspension?! Come on now! Because of laws/policies like this one and people who think like you do, we now have reached a point where from a legal stand point, it is better to stand by and watch someone, suffer, get hurt or even die than to get involved for fear of litigation and/or punishment. This is what the left thinks is utopia?! Compassion for your fellow man has been legislated out of existance….thanks for ‘caring’ so much liberal America!

    • Darrick Duran

      Malicious intent? Probably not, Well intended, probably yes. A real medical risk?… Minimal, probably .001 or 1/1000 of a risk of complication. The student should be advised to leave it to the school responders next time. but to laud her for her efforts to help another, I bet Drug Dealer is also a liberal.

  • JT

    As a parent of an asthmatic, who almost got suspended for carrying his own inhaler in a different school district, I am shocked at the severity of the consequences in this case. I know that often in the schools that my son had attended the “nurse” who was not a nurse at all but usually a medical assistant or such was rarely even in the health office. In the event of a severe asthma attack a child dependent on a rescue inhaler might not have time for the office staff to track down the person with the keys to the med cabinet or an ambulance to arrive. Since neither girl required emergency treatment this just seems a bit over the top to me.

    • NCchik

      Well put JT. The school administrators are “acting stupidly” to quote our president.

    • LTCB

      JT, Amen to what you’ve said. This is the sort of garbage that causes reasonable parents to remove their kids from “public” education.

    • Mooy

      School administrators are low grade morons who get the job because they are high up in the union crony structure. I’ve dealt with many of them via the PTA, and you find yourself slowing down how fast you talk to them.and using smaller words because you can see in their dead, blank eyes than can’t comprehend anything. Where do you think ‘zero tolerance” rules started here? Zero tolerance is code for “I don’t have to exercise a single brain cell in making a judgment call.”

      The folks in charge of the education system, and especially the unions, need to be dragged into the street and sent packing. Open revolt is the only solution now.

      • John Clark

        School administrators these days do not have a bit of Common Sense. It’s surgically removed when they take they position.

      • Brett Hatfield

        well said man!

      • Rico

        Absolutely! Zero Tolerance is code talk for Lacking in Critical Judment Skills. Zero Tolerance policies were put into place to protect so-called professional educators from ever having to make a judgment call. Zero Tolerance in practice resembles some bad Monty Python medieval judge skit where the punishment for any and all petty misdemeanors is “off with their ‘ead.”

      • Japes Macfarland

        I agree, by the DOE or the Left educating our kids for the last 40+ years, is how we’ve got such trouble and ignorance in this country. The Left is a scourge on humanity.

  • D

    The problem with your way of thinking creates a society of people who sit there and watch a car wreck and refuse to get involved because someone somewhere says it’s dangerous. There’s consequences for everything and people don’t learn unless they try. Anyways, I looked up the possible issues (you claim can be death) from a reaction and some can be dangerous like high blood pressure but nothing as deadly as you’re trying to make it seem. Fear shouldn’t be the reason to watch someone die.

    This is an opportunity to TEACH… you know at a SCHOOL that’s supposed to be for TEACHING not smack people for doing something they thought was in their better judgement. All this kind of punishment means is students will be less likely to do anything but be subservient slaves to the laws- no matter how stupid the law. (not that this one is stupid but this kind of punishment is stupid use it as an opportunity to teach)

    Yes there are nurses and paramedics… but you have to remember when you’re afraid for someones life you can’t always just sit back and pray someone gets there in time; sometimes taking action is necessary to save a life. People will always make a judgement call. That girl did if that call saved her friends life you’d be singing a different tune I’m sure.

    By the way not all “rules” are intelligent either. Like at my old school we couldn’t go to the library during lunch… well I never listened and sneaked past the guard every time… the GUARD.

    • Ethan Case

      No we wouldn’t because there are school nurses and paramedics available, not to mention all gym teachers have first aid certifications. There were no shortage of adults who knew what they were doing who could have helped. It was terrible judgement, not good judgement being unfairly punished. Good judgement would be taking 10 seconds to walk over to the teacher and ask for help. This was reckless and impatient behavior.

      • Nice Try Handwringer Ethan

        No one is claiming the middle school girls used good judgment. People are generally incensed at the poor judgment being demonstrated by the supposed adults in charge of the girls. There is such a thing as proportionate punishment and from what I can see, expelling the girls from school is an overreaction that could ultimately harm the girls far more than the effects of a shared asthma inhaler. It’s smug little snivellers like you who would consign these girls to the oblivion of Alternative School without ever giving it another thought. And that’s what makes people like you a greater danger to society than a couple of eight graders sharing an asthma inhaler ever would be.

      • USArmyCombatMedic

        Let me explain something as a person in the medical field. I’m certified as an EMT-P (Paramedic), as well as military certifications. (I admit I’m not a doctor, for all of you who will undoubtedly point that out).

        Gym teachers’ “first aid certifications” don’t mean a thing. The class they take can be shortened to this:
        1) Dial 911
        2) Open Airway
        3) Check for breathing
        4) Check for circulation
        5) If necessary (and often when unnecessary), administer chest compression (usually not well enough to help)
        6) Call 911 again, ask why ambulance isn’t here yet
        7) Frantically read pamphlet that comes with First Aid Kit
        8) Call 911, hysterically demand an ambulance arrive immediately
        9) Finally remember something about administering rescue breaths
        10) Paramedics arrive and tell you “Great Job” (while thinking “This guy bruised this kid’s sternum for no reason. He’s asthmatic”).

        Sure, this behavior didn’t help, and instead only hurt her friend. But she didn’t know that. She was trying to help. Do you honestly believe a teacher is going to know exactly what to do for every medical emergency that may arise when dealing with children?

      • trollkiller

        congrats on the most ignorant comment to date

      • LTCB

        Sorry that you’re full of it. Not sure what district you’re in but, I’ve NEVER seen a school with more than ONE marginally qualified medical person who WAS NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE and certainly not everywhere that students might need them. It was not “terrible” judgement either. Death is more permanent than high blood pressure.

      • Jimbo

        @Ethan Case- You’re stupid. I’ll also wager that you never suffered from an asthma attack.

      • BadPenny

        Wrong, where was the teacher to begin with? Sounds like they should be investigating negligent teachers rather than harassing innocent children!

      • rgard

        So the girl noticed her friend was in distress and the teacher had no clue.

      • Matt Chappel

        “Good judgement would be taking 10 seconds to walk over to the teacher and ask for help.”

        Most public school teachers are idiots. I wouldn’t ask them for help if my life depended on it.

        Keep licking those boots though…

      • Mike milgilicuddy

        Then where the f were these people???????????

      • CB

        I had several asthma attacks at school in seventh grade and was not allowed to carry my inhaler with me and I had to get special written notes from my dr just to have it on school property. No one ever helped me during gym (teachers included) class when having an attack and even the school “nurse” questioned whether my attacks were real before calling my parents (more than 45 minutes after the attack started and was continuing) to bring my inhaler [my dr still hadn’t given me the note the school forced me to have]. I don’t condone giving prescription medications to people but I wonder about the response of the so called “responsible adults” around. Perhaps they weren’t paying attention or didn’t seem to care about whatever was going on which may have caused the person to panic. It doesn’t excuse the danger of what happened as a result of the allergic reaction but look at the age of the person. Most young people don’t sit and think of all the options when panic sets in, they just act and in this case, the intentions were good.

    • NCchik

      Beautiful succinct response. Wonder if schools want critical thinkers or intimidated, obedient followers?

  • JeanneLePieux

    D. Thanks, you said it better than I could have.

    Schools are not about educating anymore. They are all about making little robots who conform. Or Else.

  • DH

    I agree with D. You TEACH what problems might arise if a person has a bad reaction to something. You DON’T teach them that if you try and save someone’s life you will have your life ruined by the school authorities (suspension and possible expulsion) . The principal and superintendent said they wanted to “teach them a lesson.” Well, they are just teaching them not to try to save anyone’s life.

    • DannyN

      The teaching should be done by the parents, not the teachers. If the stupid parents would read the precauions on the medicine taken by their children, much pain, both mental and physical, could be averted. Stop putting everything on the shoulders of the teachers. Parents need to get off their lazy butts and fulfill their responsibilities.

      • Frank

        Whe you are at school I darn well expect them to teach. Tell them to get off their rears and teach

      • Linds

        A-freaking-MEN! Yes, teachers are hired to teach, but they’re teaching SCHOOL CURRICULUM, not behavior and common frikkin sense. That’s a PARENT’S job. This shows that parents have no idea what it means to be a parent any more.

        I actually agree with this response from the school district (shocking) because 1) the inhaler was specific prescription, and 2) the girl given the Rx inhaler came close to dying from it because of an allergic reaction (likely some sort of anaphylaxis, which can occur at any time in life). In this instance, it’s best to call medical authorities (or, as one mentioned, the PE teachers, who are CPR certified and would get in contact with the nurse or EMTs) and let them handle the situation. Yes, I’ve known people with asthma and have seen what it can do, I’ve even had asthma myself, but I’ve also suffered major allergic reactions to certain medicines that are -supposed- to help and had someone ever tried to give me medicine when I was in 8th grade I would a) ask if it’s prescription, and b) ask what it is, no matter what kind of reaction I was having to something. I’m actually highly allergic to one of the most common medicines around, benadryl (diphenhydramine) and will DIE if I come into contact with it, so if some panicky classmate tried to ‘help’ me with that in school, they would’ve killed me, like this classmate nearly did this girl.

        Kids need to understand medicine is DANGEROUS, and should only be administered in this kind of situation by a certified adult (nurse, EMT, etc). ESPECIALLY a prescription medication. How an 8th grader doesn’t understand that is beyond me. Parents need to parent better. Seriously.

  • kthomp1123

    This is ridiculous – expecting two 8th grader’s not to do something like this and then punishing them for being 8th graders. Look at what the war on drugs has brought us to….two girls who could have the next years of their lives ruined.
    My advice – home school and fight public school taxes.

    • Kelly

      I’m sure the principal has no babies at home — BECAUSE SHE THROUGH THEM OUT WITH THE BATH WATER!!!!!
      I’m so glad I don’t have to put up with these bureaucrats that masquerade as educators. They’ve opted for stupidity instead of having a thought in their head.

    • Don

      I’d hate to be in need of medical assistance and have the Super. be the only one present – – he’d probably let me die to maintain his “Political Correctness” standards.

    • constitutionalAtty

      I agree the punishment is a ridiculous knee jerk reaction to a poor decision made by an eighth grader who was trying to do more than stand around during what she perceived as an emergency. I agree that it should probably be handled with an informational assembly of the whole school. Blaming it on the war on drugs not so bright, this is a result of an adult school official throwing away common sense and replacing it with the new politically correct response of extreme punishment for behavior the govt finds unacceptable. Shame on that supposed educator…shame.

    • RI

      Our school district has a form that parent and student have to sign that outlines their responsibilities IF they are allowed to self-administer. IF they are responsible enough and have had all the other permission forms signed, (DR, Parent), that stated Dr. also recommends they self-administer and he signs that he has instructed her in technique also. One of the items on this student form says: “I will not allow other students to touch or hold my medication nor any of the supplies needed for taking the medication.” A form like this may help them in the future. Our district also can expell students if they have drugs in their posession. Parents and students must go through proper channels and follow proceedures.

    • joe schmoe

      Just another government thug trying to teach us never to help each other. This girl did one of the possible right things given the perceived emergency. The only reason this is a problem is that she was under the supervision of the government when it happened.

      Move the scene to a public park where the girls were playing a sport. Now what? Suspend her from school? Throw her in jail?

    • Karen Sue Bond Prince

      I totally agree with you!! It never crossed their minds they were sharing a drug, they thinking like typical 8th graders! The school district is run by idiots!

    • Kevin

      Wow, the U.S. education system needs a revamp. Idiots are waisting their time and our money brining this case to a school board made of overpaid, old school educators. jeez

    • nut

      This isn’t the war on drugs. Be real this is over zealous school officials acting out of the letter of the law, because schools hacve been sued by parents seeking easy money. Don’t blame the war on drugs blame lawyers.

    • Ray Walker

      Expulsion is way too severe. Bringing this incident up in the school assembly would be appropriate . Both girls have learned a lesson and the student body has thereby been informed, a 5 day suspension seems all that should be done.
      Kids learn from mistakes. We don’t end their school days because of honest mistakes. Dumb over reaction.

    • CNorm

      My grandaughter gave a friend at school a prescription pain killer when he hurt his back and was in severe pain, trying to be helpful. A school police officer saw her and she was arrested and sent to jail. She was later suspended from school, kicked off the cheerleading squad, and could not attend the senior prom. She had to graduate from a secondary school and now has a felony on her record. She is attending college now and cannot even get a part time job because of the felony. The police officer and school officials could have handled this with a simple trip to the principle’s office to explain the error in her judgement. Young people make mistakes and they don’t have to suffer the rest of their lifes because of bad decision.

    • Jeffersonian Liberal

      Exactly. I’m tired of paying for a corrupt and ineffective system that has done more harm than good.

      Apropos of the article, a girl died here in Virginia on January 3rd due to an allergy. The public school declined to allow her and Epipen, and failed to administer Benadryl per the child’s “allergy action plan.” The school had the legal authority to act and chose not to do so.

      Of course, if the inhaler incident had resulted in death or grievous injury then the school would have been sued for not preventing a student from harming another student. That doesn’t mean that you teach children to be careful with medications by expelling them. It appears that by this act common sense has been expelled as well.

      Perhaps ceding to the Government our responsibility to provide an education for our children is not such a good idea after all.

    • Iam A Spy

      This is just ALL BAD all around. This is a case where the people in charge of enforcing can decide to ignore policy. That’s if both parents agree that it was ok. Then cover your butt with a waver from the parents.

      Still the school is deathly afraid of getting sued. And they should be because the other parent could be those types that will sue over anything. So the reaction makes sense. They have to cover their butts to.

      Still …does the Good Samaritan Law is vague…the last time I read it over was in my Paramedics days and Fire FIghter days. That law is meant to protect people who come to the aid of others.

      That is what that friend of hers did…came to her aid. Waiting on medics and response teams when AIRWAY..>BREATHING and Circulation is an issue is bad. ABC’s the first responders learn…

      Well her friend was in distress and it happens to be Breathing …. If the actions saved her friends life….then the Good Samaritan Law should protect her.

  • SuperDave

    Too many kids–and adults share medication and self-prescribe, THINKING they know what is wrong. Even if she was right, the medication has risks and needs a doctor’s supervision,.

    She did the wrong thing but for the right reason. Suspension is appropriate, but so is education of kids and parents alike.

    Expulsion is overkill. We are not talking about recreational use of drugs.


    why is my automatic reaction always,,,,,LIBERAL ELITIST DEMOCRAT

    • trollkiller

      ….because you are a ignorant moron?

      • B

        No, because he’s right.

  • Coy860

    IF the principal has a heart attack, no one but no one would be willing to give him a life saving aspirin.. Have to think about the rules you know.

    • Ethan Case

      1. Aspirin isn’t perscription.
      2. There are many qualified adults around and available to give that principal the life-saving aid he needs. He wouldn’t have to rely on an 8th grader smuggling aspirin in to relieve his heart attack.

      • Brian

        And yet, aspirin can cause an allergic reaction. Use of scheduled drugs without a prescription is illegal. Technically, if it isn’t scheduled, you can use it however you want. You just can’t buy it without a scrip.

      • rgard

        And where were all the qualified adults in the gym class?

      • jeff

        You are a genuis. Are you a teacher?

  • Rupert Pupkin

    Wrong decision made by the students. Draconian punishment is unwarranted, however. Expulsion? Really?? Take note of the police state, it is growing ever so unwieldy, wouldn’t you say?

  • Justin Denial

    Isn’t there still a Good Samaratin law?

  • David Toney

    When are Americans going to adopt a zero tolerance policy towards stupidity in school administration?

    • Lebek Johnson

      Just as soon as we adopt a zero tolerance policy for our elected officials.

  • Matthew Dunnyveg

    If I were a public school student today, I would consider it an honor to get expelled. The most charitable thing I can say about public education is that it is a total waste of perfectly good time. Better to take the GED and head off to vocational school or college.

  • The Worm Turned

    I’m affraid that this is a reaction to “zero tolerance” policies (on steroids, so to speak).

    “Zero tolerance” policies are a wrong solution to a problem. They are mandates to force the hands of enforcement entities (superintendants, principles, judges…), by effectively forcing a worst-case punishment on all. When did common sense and judgement become unused qualities? Let the principles, superintendants and judges actually judge. If they judge badly, remove them, but don’t make every small offense punishable like a big offense.

    Yes, the girl should not have shared her medication (it was dangerous). But, is the punished intended to “teach” about pharma dangers or to prevent trafficing of other “desireable” medications?

    These girls might deserve a day or two suspension and a letter in their file, but this punishment is draconian.

    • Mara

      “When did common sense and judgement become unused qualities?”

      It all started on April 20, 1999 with Harris and Klebold shooting up Columbine HS. People went nuts. The decline gained momentum when Al Qaida crashed into the Twin Towers, and people went even MORE nuts. It finally expired on the day corporations became people.

    • Steve

      As I have taught my kids, “Zero Tolerance” means “Zero Intelligence.” These are policies put in place to presumably shield the school from lawsuits and allow teachers and administrators to dole out punishment without having to take the blame. Schools that need Zero Tolerance policies usually have teachers who can’t teach and students who are not interested in learning. Get Out!

    • Ethan Case

      On the contrary. A permanent black mark on their record is something too intangible for them to really understand, and won’t teach them anything. 10 days of suspension and no permanent damage to their record is ideal. They aren’t being permanently punished for bad, but well intentioned judgement in 8th grade, but are still, really, learning a valuable lesson.

      • Sean

        No permanent punishment? You forgot the part where the school is attemping to expel them..

  • Chris Bracey

    The real issue here is that the principle is trying to teach the WRONG lesson. He’s making an example out of what are likely two very good kids. There are probably plenty of kids in that school drinking before/after/during school, trading or selling prescription or illegal drugs, or eating a horrible diet that will slowly kill them. Rather than tackling the harder issues better to make an name (or a point I guess) with this low hanging fruit.

  • RRBv09

    then if the child died because nobody helped her then there would be troublle as well right?

    • Ethan Case

      Conversely, if the child died b/c the allergic reaction she got from the inhaler caused her to stop breathing and it was the inhaler that killed her. we’d be talking about how there isn’t ENOUGH control of prescription drugs in schools.

      • BadPenny

        Nope, that would just prove beyond any doubt that teachers are even more negligent than they already are! Where was the teachers when this child was having an apparent asthma attack? Let me guess, she was in the girls room watching the girls undress for gym.

  • ScottieDont

    Did they do wrong? Yes. Did they do it with malicious intent? No.

    They should receive slaps on the wrist, but EXPULSION?? Gimme a break. A reactionary principal and superintendent wanting to make an example of two girls guilty of nothing more than being a bit ignorant in a panic situation, plain and simple.

    Suspensions are enough. Done.

  • Sashland

    Reminds me of the girl who died recently because the Epi-Pen at the Nurse’s office was not hers, so they would not use it and let her die instead.

    How smart was THAT?

    • trollkiller

      posters like ethan case would think it very smart

  • Guest

    First, I went to fighting tournament not too long ago, and was ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED at the number of people using inhalers in the ring in between fights. I can’t believe all those people had asthma. It looked like they were doing it to get a boost and an edge on their opponents. There is something weird going on with the inhalers.

    Second, I wouldn’t be too happy with either of these junior high student’s. One for taking a drug that didn’t belong to her, and the other for diagnosing and medicating the other. She should have helped her friend to the nurse’s office. Luckily nothing worse happened.

  • Dan Meyer

    Our son grew up with asthma from a very early age. Teachers, gym teachers especially are often not up to speed on it. Our son was out on a hot day (90’s) doing a ‘mile run’ for Presidential Fitness Program – he was having an attack and had blue lips from lack of oxygen when my wife was directed to the exercise field. He even tried to tell her that he was still on “his time” – when my wife blasted him that he was HER son and that ‘time’ is 24 hours a day. She got him fired over the incident.

    These girls were trying to help. They BOTH know how scary an asthma attack can be. We’ve had friends die of asthma attacks. (Adults who knew to take their meds and keep inhalers) The school here is WAY out of line and needs to be corrected. THEY need an ‘education’ about asthma and can take their ‘zero-tolerance’ attitude and stuff it.

  • Bob

    Suspension, yes, expulsion, definately would be over kill. I would do the same thing and take the suspension.

  • JT12

    The Truth is this is gross over reaction by an ignorant Principal. One that has become far too common. Rather than use ANY common sense. It is no wonder the schools are such a mess when there are so many morons running them.

  • Joe Greenwell

    As a retired school teacher the public schools demonstate their inability to educate children. If they would quit trying to be the parents and just teach the children everything would be much better off. The state legislatures need to make it impossible for schools to be sued so if something like this occurs it falls on the individuals to address the issue. All these “stupid” rules come about because parents want to blame the schools for not taking control. When the school does take control they look like idiots.

    I say shut every public school down bust the unions and privitize every school in America. It is not the responsibility of the govenment to educate children it is the responsibility of the parents.

  • Joe Greenwell

    You know where all of this is going to end is when a school prevents a child from carrying what is now called a “rescue” inhaler or other drug at school because of the “rules” and that child dies. Then the poop will hit the fan.

  • sean patriot

    “it comes down to two students sharing prescription drugs” Um they weren’y sharing anti depression pills or anything, she did it to save her life. People are morons. What if she hadn’t of give it to her and she died? then what would the school say?

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