50,000 Packages In Limbo At UPS Distribution Center

COMMERCE CITY, Colo. (CBS4) – Thousands of people in the metro area will open their presents a little late this year because the day started out with 50,000 packages in limbo at the United Parcel Service holding facility in Commerce City.

A lot of the packages are locked up in the warehouse Christmas Eve. Even though UPS managers came in Christmas Eve to work the customer service desk, more than a few customers may find their gifts are missing under the Christmas tree on Sunday.

The line would grow, so would the frustration.

“He said, ‘If you haven’t prearranged to have your stuff picked up, it will be another two hours.’ So I said, ‘Why didn’t you tell me before I waited two hours in this line?’ ” Scarlett Crawford of Aurora said.

UPS managers tried to clear up customer confusion about where to pick up their packages. Employees kept ferrying some of the 50,000 undelivered packages from their warehouse hub nearby to the customer service building.

Some would get some of their gifts.

“I’ve got three of the four. The fourth I can wait until they deliver on Tuesday,” Shannon Gallagher of Commerce City said. “I was planning on being here quite awhile and I think it’s been four hours.”

But as day turned into night, many would get nothing.

A supervisor explained customers needed to be holding a delivery notice that was stuck to their door.

“If your package was not attempted and you don’t have one of these, we’re not going to find your package,” a supervisor said.

“They should’ve hired a whole lot more help,” Larry Hill of Denver said.

UPS blamed Thursday’s snowstorm. Their drivers have the option of avoiding slippery streets.

“The weather knocked us out of kilter,” the supervisor said.

But customers, with their Christmas spirit now damaged, were not so willing to accept weather as an excuse.

“I got out in my truck and I went to work that day, so it’s hard for me to believe a UPS truck can’t make it through in this kind of weather; and before Christmas you’d think they’d make the extra effort,” Rose McPhee of Denver said.

UPS says it’ll start rolling out the trucks again on Tuesday.

Some UPS customers said the U.S. Postal Service and Fed-Ex had no problems delivering their packages these past few days.

  • David Rupert

    The Postal Service delivered everyday of this week, including Saturday. Yeah to the carriers! Look for some out delivering Express Mail tomorrow on Christmas!

    • Adrienne Mierzwa

      I sent everything US Postal Service..EVERYTHING got there on time. My brother sent me a calendar from LA-NY. It got here in TWO DAYS

    • paul

      The blame can be shared by everyone….UPS, the customers shipping things late, etc…Leave it to the media, and Matt Drudge to sensationalize a story. Like clockwork, every year, there are stories how FedEx, UPS, and the Postal Service suck.

      • Ridge

        The blame is clearly NOT to be shared by everyone. UPS is the one making promises of last minute deliveries via online retailers. It is also clear to many of us that the snow day was a lucky accident for them as they were already a late with guaranteed 2 and 3 day deliveries before it snowed.

    • Montana Bill

      UPS shippers need to reconsider there options. Fed Ex ground and the USPS worked on SATURDAY. I avoid UPS whenever possible because of bad service

  • J in Pasadena

    UPS is the crummiest delivery service in the world. Every package I’ve had delivered by UPS in the past three months has either been late or severely damaged. (Unfortunately some businesses only use UPS.) One box was delivered empty, and another was delivered looking like it was run over by an 18-wheeler. They frankly do not give a darn about finding your lost items and try to cheap out wherever they can when it’s insured. Receivers cannot make changes to their delivery until after it’s attempted, nor can they request reimbursement for damages — they only allow shippers to do these things. They are a nightmare.

    • M Sutter

      Never had a problem with UPS either. You must just have bad karma!

    • Kingfish

      I agree with you totally, they take 2 times longer and are twice as expensive as USPS. One reason i have found out by looking at the tracking information, a package that is shipped from CA. takes twice as long because it has to be processed through many, many more shipping centers. Fed Ex uses Usps to deliver a large quantity of their mail, they give USPS a certain amount per package, i have seen Fed EX packages sit 3 or 4 days in a hub in Charlotte NC, before it’s picked for delivery.

    • Ryan

      I hope they do not allow anyone to change a package delivery address after it has been sent. Just think of the amount of fraud that would happen!

    • S in Pa.

      I’ll bet J works for fedex

    • CaroleJ

      “One box was delivered empty”

      Ummmm ….. That’s not UPS’ fault……

    • Hank R

      Never had a problem with them.

    • TheaterFan

      I mean… think about it… trying to make a change in delivery??? I can’t blame them for having that policy. Can you imagine the post office letting you make a change while a package is in transit? I”ve never had a problem with UPS..

      • trkr

        exactly!personal,conceierge,on demand service from my smartphone and all with free shipping!And to think that I,king of the my toilet,have to be told that i have to wait!!!Stand in line!Hurry now servant driver,faster,faster.

      • taylor

        UPS brings packages to the U S P S everyday for the post office to deliver, but FEDEX does the same so I cannot just say UPS.

    • Dicedfroggy

      You cand thank the International Brotherhood of Teamsters and their “Elected” president James p Hoffa.
      Remeber to look for the union lable for a stronger American working class.

      • Pelu Maad

        Rick…bring back slavery?

      • jay halliburton

        Right on the money. As a retired supervisor a constant battle. The drivers work hard and held to high standards. But great benifits and pay for delivering boxes.. A very hard company to work for.

      • Rick

        Riiiiiiight. Poor management because they didn’t do enough to keep a union from forming there, maybe.

      • UPS guy

        Actually, the union *DID* help make the rules. Part of the rules involves driver safety. If a driver doesn’t think he can make a delivery safely, then he doesn’t have to. This is as it should be. I disagree with a lot of what the union stands for, but I do agree with this aspect.

      • Gilbert R Albright Jr

        Stop blaming the Union. They don’t run the Company or make the rules. Put the blame with it belongs POOR MANAGMENT!

    • Archie

      Use the US Postal Service instead and experience their customer service. I’m sure you will change your mind.

      • Danny

        I concurr.

      • Patrick

        Postal service rocks!

  • Mary K S

    UPS has the worst service compared to all carriers and absolutely insane customs fees when shipped from USA to Canada, I sell a lot on eBay and I avoid them at all cost

    • charley nash

      Why are “custom fees” the fault of UPS? Could it be the Canadian Government that is the culprit?

    • bob

      ill bet you shop CHINA-MART too lol

    • Josh

      UPS does not charge customs fees. Customs fees are set and enforced by governments not corporations. UPS does not have the authority to charge customs fees. With UPS once you have paid the price to ship no additional fees will be added to the shipment unless the sender requires additional service like changing an address after the package is in UPS hands or changing the signature requirement to name a few of the more common reasons.

      If you send a package to Canada via UPS and the person on the other end is required to pay an additional fee before their package is released to them that fee is being levied by the Canadian government. For someone who sells a lot of stuff on ebay (especially internationally) it is probably in your best interest to do a little research so that you may understand what exactly happens to a package when it hits the border of another country.

      • Mary K S

        I meant brokerage fees, and those fees are insane, I see that UPS sent their trolls to do damage control

      • Jay

        The customs fees themselves aren’t bad – it’s the ‘brokerage fees’ that they gouge you with.
        If something was shipped USPS, it costs $5 flat fee no matter what the cost of the item. UPS and other couriers it can easy cost $150 on top of the customs fees for brokerage fees for an item that’s worth $1000.
        It’s highway robbery and I don’t know how that’s not illegal to charge fees like that.

      • HardCase

        UPS owns the customs brokerage firm that handles UPS shipments into Canada. So you are both right.

      • Paul

        You are partially correct. UPS and Fedex use Customs brokers, who are licensed to apply duties to packages entering Canada. They are much faster than the regular customs officials, but are much more expensive. Packages entering Canada via US Postal service are charged $5 per package for handling, but the brokers Fedex and UPS charge based on the value of the item, so it may be much, much more.
        Many of my Canadian customers will request that I send their items US Postal Service, as it is much more expensive using Fedex or UPS, and they know it.

    • no

      UPS is fantastic. In fact, I live in the area serviced by the branch in this story. I got deliveries on Thursday. They made it through about two feet of snow and an unshoveled walk way on a road that the city never clears during snow storms and placed half a dozen boxes safely and carefully on my front steps and rang the doorbell.

      • Kingfish

        They should deliver, the fees they charge and with 2 people per truck, shouldn’t be a problem,

  • Neal A

    What has happened to journalism? This story is so poorly written I don’t even know where to begin.

    • Myles

      Totally agree. I thought it was paid for by FedEx.

  • Frank Smith

    I know, let’s wait until the last second to ship our stuff, and then blame UPS. You people are fools to ship so late and just expect it to be there.

    • sam

      Frank, don’t be so quick to call people fools. At 3:00 AM, UPS loaded a box on the truck and the status said out for delivery. The roads were clear and weather fine. The box was not delivered. At 10:00 PM the tracking said delivery date updated to Tuesday. They are BAD. B. A. D. Don’t blame the shippers.

      • Chris

        Scott, Dont blame the recipients either.. Look at Best Buy, Telling customers that the items they ordered online in NOVEMBER would not arrive by Christmas. Shippers, and companies are sending stuff out right up until the deadline as the items are manufactured. Even Myself, i placed an order for an item for my daughter a month ago from a TV infomercial, and the product has been backordered even still. So is it my fault if on Dec 22 or Dec 23, that the item finally gets shipped? I ordered it a month ago. I understand some of the frustration, But you should think that UPS would pull out any and all stops to make sure all the packages were delivered. FedEx even worked on Saturday this year to ensure people got their items, leaving special notices when they attempted packages on Friday telling customers that they would attempt delivery on Saturday, and that packages could be picked up at their warehouse after a certain time on saturday after like 2pm. UPS could have negotiated with the union to allow it to get workers in and make sure the place was absolutely empty for Xmas. It did not. Just shows that UPS is not Customer Friendly at all.

      • Scott

        You have no clue about the tidle wave that UPS experiences. If you send them late and I’ll bet every one of those who 50,000 did so you can’t blame them “if” you did not allow for “any” delays of anykind that are not within their ability to make up for lost time.

        Not to knock FedX but they don’t even handle 1/2 of the packages UPS does.

    • Brad

      It doesn’t appear that late shipments were to blame. It was the late delivery that is to blame.

      • Danny

        If you want to blame someone, blame yourself. If you want it that fast, go get it yourself.

    • Gilbert R Albright Jr

      100 PERCENT CORRECT! These people always blame somebody else for their laziness and stupidity.!

  • NLC

    UPS worked until 10Pm here in Plano, TX. I was able to avoid the pain of shopping in the real world.

  • Silvernickel

    Have dealt with both for 15 years
    ups has a union, fedex is non union nothing more needs to be said

    • Todd

      Exactly right.

    • TerryCSA

      You hit the nail on the head. I use to work in UPS customer service and I can tell you that the drivers supervisors don’t give a damn if you get your packages or not. In some areas of the country, mostly the southern states, some drivers will take it upon themselves to deliver packages even on Christmas day. But this is few and far between.

      They are union and know no matter what they do OR don’t do they will never be fired for their ineptness, rudeness, or just plain laziness. Unions take away all incentive to do a good job.

      • I P standing

        besides being a moron you ignore the fedex guy that started it all,,your “used to” statement means you probably were fired

      • Myles

        You’re right TerryCSA, unions are the problem because they keep drivers from working on Christmas Day. How terrible of them.

    • tom kath

      That’s right. Unions are the problem. Worked for 3 years with ebay and had to quit using ups. Never a problem with fedex.

    • Jake

      You are absolutely correct. I applied for an UPS job and during the initial tour the first thing the manager said to the group of applicants was “We are a UNION and if anyone thinks that being a UNION worker means that you can be lazy then this job is not for you”. I chuckled to myself and was astonished that this manager obviously recognized that the general public sees UNIONS for what they actually are and he was immediately trying to defend them. I didn’t get the job and was so relieved as five weeks later I landed a job with a great company at 3 1/2 times the salary. UPS can’t hold a candle next to FEDEX. I did work temp several years ago at a FEDEX facility and it was CLEAN and EFFICIENT and comparing it to the UPS facility, well, UPS was literally very very dirty.

      • Mike Dougles

        So you are making over 100 dollars an hour now, good for you.

        I dont believe it but hey.

    • bah

      Exactly. UPS always delivers my stuff on time, considerately, and through the worst of weather. Their drivers are always friendly, helpful, and polite. They’re super cheap and super efficient. FedEx, on the other hand, often just stick notes on my door without actually attempting to deliver the package, claim to have attempted deliveries that they’ve never tried, or send a tiny little girl to deliver a massive item up a flight of stairs (that they knew they’d be encountering ahead of time when delivery was arranged) and are the only ones of the three services (including UPS and DHL) to actually have obliterated packages they were supposed to deliver, requiring me to go through the claims process.

      I’ll take UPS any time. In fact, I use them about 100 times a year. They’re awesome.

  • govtslaves

    UPS has outrageous shipping costs….On the other hand i have had a few upset customers who haven’t gotten their orders and i ship USPS. What do you expect its the busiest shipping time of the year.

    • Mike

      When I place an order I specify ship Fed-Ex. If the store owner says he ships only UPS i tell him to cancel the order!

  • Marty

    The Postal Service came through like champs this year… Working all hours, until midnight in some areas! Great job USPS!!!!

  • steph

    I agree with Mr.Smith (above)…don’t wait til the last minute and blame UPS. USPS and FedEX had far fewer packages therefore their statistics will in turn look better. Fewer customers will ultimately result in happier customers. Furthermore, the woman in your piece that said she got out in the snow would be the first to complain when a UPS truck was stuck and blocked her street because the driver tried to deliver her package. Finally, when you aired this piece it was after the Bronco game…my child was watching and you showed a clip of a gentleman talking about getting Santa’s presents. FINE JOURNALISM!!!

    • Brad

      Sorry, I think you are incorrect. The story is about *recipients* getting the raw end of the deal. This was not necessarily the fault of the *shippers.* For 50,000 packages to end up backpiled in one hub tells me bad management. It’s not like they didn’t know Dec. 25 wasn’t coming.

    • no

      So the news should be tailored to bolster your stupid mythologies? Grow up.

  • Redz

    Yeah, the USPS came through for us again this year too! We got all our junk mail, right on time, but not our packages that were shipped 2 weeks ago.

    • Z

      Most domestic shipments are not person to person. Rather, the receiver is most often the person who ordered from an online business. UPS, nor anyone else, can know how many shipments will be made, and plan accordingly, before they are placed. People shouldn’t wait until the last minute. Stuff happens and that’s reality. You can be mad at UPS. Or you can learn to ship early. But one option results in getting Christmas presents on time.

  • Pete Anderson

    I rely on home health care and general merchandise being delivered to my home 10-12 times/month. My experience has been the exact opposite of most of those deriding UPS. I cringe when I order something, then learn it is being shipped USPS. Today, the mailman had a 1’x1’x1′ parcel suspended from my rural mailbox by two rubber bands, with the mailbox door left open! In the time it took to tie the package to the mailbox, he could have pulled up the driveway. When prescriptions are sent USPS, and tracked, they will travel 1000 miles in two days, then languish at a mail distribution facility 10 miles from my home for six days. FedEx delivered a set of onion soup crocks broken to pieces —THREE consecutive attempts before the merchant finally shipped it via UPS. Countless times, FedEx has placed items 12-15 feet away from the front door, in the rain or snow; UPS always places in protected area by garage door.

    • billy b

      Get your facts straight. If UPS drops off its packages before the carriers leave on their delivery route then the packages are delivered that same day. If UPS drops off the packages after the carriers leave the post office then the packages are delivered the next day. !0 days Pete–get your facts straight.

    • Fed Up

      Your packages shoud be properly packed – they broke because the shipper failed to insulate them from expected tumbles into trailers by conveyor belts.

  • Jeremy Cuthair

    I think I’m done with dealing with them…first the guy throwing things over the wall an now this…it just shows they don’t care I guess…

  • William J Gollatz

    This is a “Teachable Moment.” There 366 days until Christmas 2012. Maybe people who are already too lazy to do their shopping at a store will not wait until day 359 to do their online shopping.

  • scott

    FedEx, Best Buy and UPS have had a rough couple of days. If the failure of a gift to be delivered on time has killed your “Christmas spirit” or “ruined your Christmas” I’m pretty sure you’ve missed the point.

    • p[ostofficemike

      Way to go Scott! At least somebody gets what Christmas is all about. And it’s not presents! Or, shouldn’t be.

    • Cheerful in Dallas

      Scott, sadly those that missed that point won’t grasp yours either.

  • SK

    We are part of the 50,000. All our ship dates we set for the 22nd or 23rd, but nothing arrived from UPS. As someone else noted, the Post Office delivered mail every day, in addition to the trash service running while it snowed.

    The bottom line is UPS wasn’t ready for that many packages. Instead of just saying they are overrun, they used the weather as an excuse.

    Not that any of this will ruin Christmas but it still is poor service to not deliver on time and then try and cover it up as if no one would notice.

    • thomas IAD349

      Sk .. best comment so far. if the trash guys can run the routes so can USPs FEDEX UPS. using the weather to hide behind poor logistics decision and failure to inform customers is the real issues.
      if this was fedex ( i know this ) you would have at least known were the package is and at what location. UPS makes it impossible to retrive a package at a location.. the reason for the fedex door tag is to let customers know WE TRYed TO DELIVER your parcel but need you to sign for it.. those conditions are placed on the parcel by the shipper. UPS with thier tracking system can not even tell you were the package is located. FEDEX can. right down to the route and truck number ; and the data is posted in real time. UPS has major logistical issues when their system get over loaded. this was a prime example.

      • snurdely

        Thomas, don’t quit your day job. UPS has a far superior tracking system. Not only do they know where your package is, they can tell you how many more stops on that route before it is delivered. Notice the only concern in the country was an area plagued by bad weather?

  • Cheerful in Dallas

    Bad weather happens. Customers should have anticipated delays and shipped earlier. Give the drivers a break. An accident would have done much more to ruin a driver’s Christmas, than a delayed delivery of a package that could have been sent earlier. Let the whiners complain to whomever placed the order too late or possibly a slow shipping family member/friend.

    The commercialism of Christmas is bad enough without the added ugliness of brawls, pepper spraying at stores or anger directed swamped drivers.

  • James Woods

    Christmas in 2011 is nothing more than a corporate holiday. There is no reason what-so-ever that UPS as corporate as it gets could not work non-stop until all the packages were delivered.

    UPS has no problem paying people very little to do bust their rear-ends and in the process somehow manages to maintain a union.

    Sorry UPS your wrong.

    When I worked in retail when we got busy we stayed until every customer left. I guess UPS doesn’t work like that.

    • Jesse

      Top rate for UPS drivers is over $30/hr. I wouldn’t call that “very little.” This is just one of those things that happens in one isolated place, due to weather, management mistakes or other human errors–but I wouldn’t say this comes close to reflecting on the entire company.

      I spent an entire month of my life sprinting like an Olympic athlete to get done with the day’s work in under 14 hours, and every time I see the local USPS or FedEX guy out there, they’re always walking casually without a care in the world.

      Also, the vast majority of drivers out of my center worked 12-14 hours per day all through December. It is company policy to never go back to the building without delivering every parcel in your truck, whilst the post office frequently goes home shortly after 5 pm and saves work for the next day. Have you ever tried sprinting constantly for 14 hours while carrying heavy boxes, for 5 weeks straight?

      I think the majority of the public are smart enough to realize that this is an isolated incident, and they understand how hard we worked this past month to make everybody’s lives a little bit easier and more enjoyable over the holiday.

      • Davie

        I did the same thing for UPS for the month of December as a Driver’s Helper. We both worked our butts off, sometimes making nearly 250 stops in a day with packages ranging from a few ounces to 100+ pounds.

      • Fed Up

        The “casually walking FED EX guy” isn’t late – so he can afford to be so casual.

      • burtoby

        Post Office doesn’t “whilst the post office frequently goes home shortly after 5 pm and saves work for the next day. ” Everything in our building goes every day. It only comes back if no one’s home, and they are left a notice.Five o’clock? We routinely deliver in the dark. There’s no ‘saves work for the next day’.
        The reason we’re seen walking is because go to every address, down the block and back. Try walking with a load on your shoulder for about 56 min. an hour for 6 to 7 hours daily. The latest I’ve delivered on Christmas Eve? 10:40

    • William J Gollatz

      It is not a corporate holiday. There are tens of thousands of businesses that are not incorporated that rely on holidays sales to make the year profitable.

  • frankie

    shame on all you people who think you know the answers. As a ups driver, let me fill you in a little bit. As a former delivery driver I made EVERY effort to get packages delivered. I remember one Christmas eve eve, I was out there delivering till !!pm. People were freaked. OMG your still out here? I’d say yes, cant finish till my last package is off. And you could see the smile on there face. This isn’t always the case, but I try every year to make that happen. So when you go bad mouthing us, learn some true facts! Not all of us are like that. but many are. And let me also fill you in on management. They’re the biggest SC**B*GS going. They don’t give a rats as s about you, me and the company. all they care is about there precious numbers and year end bonuses. They treat us like we’re garbage. So when you go trashing us cause we’re union, sure I get it, but there are rules and policy we must follow. and OH! yeah, if as a driver I dont feel like putting my life in danger by getting on dangerous road (snow,ice) you bet I’m going to think about me, and not your precious package that you decided to order 24hrs b4 Christmas. So in the end….GIVE US BREAK! We’re not all bad! MERRY CHRISTMAS!

    • ups empoyee

      THANK YOU!!!!!

    • David Rupert

      Kudos to all the carriers — FEDEx, UPS and USPS — who braved the elements and worked hard for Christmas. Sometimes, it just doesnt work out.

  • Barry

    Packages coming up from the Dallas corridor were stopped for 3 days due to road closures in southeast Colorado.If you think these guys are lazy,go to a postal service bulk mail hub.The government union workers are 10 times as bad.They were all hired by affirmitive action.(nothing eles needs to be said}If you pay attention to the news you know how much the postal service is in debt,UPS workers are not funded by tax dollars but free market instead.Fe ex uses eastern europeans for their workforce.Most dont speak english.

    • David Rupert

      The Postal Service is not funded by tax dollars.
      You cannot be hired by affirmative action by the Postal Service.
      Entrance is by standardized testing.

    • BILLY B

      Really Barry–most don’t speak English.
      I’ve been in business many years and every fedex driver who delivers speaks English very well.
      You must work for UPS.

  • David Rupert

    Despite the same snow, the Postal Service delivered every day of this week in Denver. And that includes Saturday, which UPS and FEDEX took off. Great carriers. Great service.

    • Jesse

      This is a lie. UPS delivered Saturday air packages, which is our only service level that gets delivered on Saturday. Did you think that you could send something across the country as a standard ground delivery the day before Christmas and expect it to get there on time? Talk about cheap.

    • Fed Up

      Fed Ex works Saturday

  • frankie

    yea real difficult with there little envelopes. your comparing apples and oranges. its two different monsters!!!! don’t want to take away from usps, but it really is night and day!

    • David Rupert

      The Postal Service delivered 120 million packages this month.

      • david rupert

        The Postal Service delivered 13 billion pieces of mail this month, including 120 million packages. Most days this week USPS has topped 700 million pieces of mail a day.

      • frankie

        look, everybody is working hard. its not an easy industry and it gets more and more difficult each year. this is not a good story, people not getting there packages, but you know, there are greater problems in this Country than package delivery competition, can we all agree on that?? MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!!!

      • Jesse

        If you read this article, UPS delivered over 120 million packages JUST THIS WEEK! I’d say that in light of that, it’s not too bad that only one hub had a goof up, although it’s still not excusable. Having said that, there is no way a USPS worker does half as much as UPS does. Their stuff weighs a fraction of ours, and we still deliver more pieces per hour.


    • burtoby

      Remember, the USPS only counts something as parcel if it’s OVER 2 LBS. AND BIGGER THAN A SHOEBOX. 1LB, 15 OZ is considered an spr or SPUR. 4 bricks taped together wouldn’t count. So the apples and oranges analogy doesn’t quite work. A letter carrier, most of the time, has to carry the parcel(s) and SPR’s in the satchel, down the block and back until the actual address is arrived at. This with a left arm of mail and circulars and a left hand full of letters.Mix in some rain or snow and soy based ink. Unfun.

  • Jonathan

    File this under “First World Problems”

  • John B

    I got an idea lets just let the government take it over and then blame Bush for the whole thing. Or we can blame a computer for causing the whole mess maybe the people got stuck at the ATM trying to get their money out and it caused them to buy their gifts late so they took them to UPS late. Im sorry but UPS should offer a discount or refund but seriously people its Christmas its suppose to be about Christ and a celebration of his birth…spend time with your family enjoy the things your have that are special give thanks for everything you have bc there are so many more out there that have nothing at all, and they would be happy with a spoonful of rice and clean water. MERRY CHRISTMAS to all and may God bless those who cannot be with us and have not the things they need to survive.

    • frankie

      COPY THAT!!!!!!!

  • mike

    Mail service is faster never use fedex or Ups

    • Fed Up

      WHAT? The mail service use contractor trucks to move them hub to hub, and with the overnight shipping they use Fed EX air.

      • george tsokanis

        exaxctly,your dead on.And freight gets moved by passenger airlines as well.The usps only does sorting,some short haul transfer,bulk to large customers and home delivery .All long distance is done by Fedex,UPS and contract private haulers.

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