Denver Collects Fines On Drivers Who Stop At Red Lights

DENVER (CBS4) – The city of Denver is bringing in thousands of dollars in fines every year by ticketing people who stop at red lights. They are ticketed because their tire goes over the white line that marks where the vehicle should stop.

The red light cameras at various intersections in the city will flash and the driver will be sent a $75 citation if the vehicle goes over the white line, even if the driver stops for the light.

“They are stealing money. Who has extra money to pay?” asked one driver.

“I think this is an injustice, it’s just completely unfair,” said another.

“I didn’t go through the red light. I just didn’t stop at the white line,” said yet another driver. “I feel it’s a frivolous charge. If an officer had been present, I would not have been given that ticket.”

That driver went to court to fight the ticket and lost.

According to the law, Steady red indication:

a. Vehicular traffic facing a steady circular red signal alone shall stop at a clearly marked stop line but, if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then before entering the intersection and shall remain standing until an indication to proceed is shown; except that

1. Such vehicular traffic, after coming to a stop and yielding the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully within an adjacent crosswalk and to other traffic lawfully using the intersection, may make a right turn unless an official sign is erected at each and every intersection where such right turn is prohibited.

2. Such vehicular traffic, when proceeding on a one-way street, and after coming to a stop, may make a left turn onto a one-way street upon which traffic is moving to the left of the driver. Such turn shall be made only after yielding the right-of-way to pedestrians and other traffic proceeding as directed. No such turn shall be made if a sign is erected giving notice of any such prohibition at each and every intersection where such left turn is prohibited.

b. Pedestrians facing a steady circular red signal alone shall not enter the roadway, unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian-control signal.

c. Vehicular traffic facing a steady red arrow signal may not enter the intersection to make the movement indicated by such arrow and, unless entering the intersection to make such other movement as is permitted by other indications shown at the same time, shall stop at a clearly marked stop line but, if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then before entering the intersection and shall remain standing until an indication to make the movement indicated by such arrow is shown.

d. Pedestrians facing a steady red arrow signal shall not enter the roadway, unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian-control signal.
(Code 1950, § 508.6)

The pictures are reviewed at the Denver Police Photo Enforcement Division before a ticket is issued.

“When we review the violation image and the front tire is (only inches away from) the stop bar, we will not issue the citation,” said Denver Police Dept. Photo Enforcement Supervisor Ted Porras.

Porras said when a car stops over the line it can block the intersection, which forces pedestrians to go around cars or even get stuck in traffic.

Rudy Bettmann received a ticket and acknowledges being over the line.

“This is the photograph I received and it looks like my front tire was right on the back edge of this line,” said Bettmann.

He even took measurements and his own photos to fight the ticket, but he lost.

“Are these cameras to make money for the city or are they for safety?” CBS4 Investigator Rick Sallinger asked Porras.

“It is for safety,” Porras said. “If this was simply a money-generating machine, all that people need to do is follow the law and we wouldn’t have a reason for the program.”

CBS4 Investigator Rick Sallinger found most everyone who challenged the white line tickets in court lost. But he did find one judge offering a reduction from a $75 fine to $40 for a guilty plea. The reduction comes only after the defendant answers affirmatively to the judge’s question as to
whether they will drive safer in the future.

Another knocked down the fine to $50 if someone had to wait for more than an hour for their court hearing.

Denver City Councilwoman Jeanne Faatz has asked the photo enforcement department to give drivers a break.

“They feel if they blow through a red light they deserve a ticket, but if their wheels just inch into the white line and there’s no safety hazard around, that that’s being nitpicky,” said Faatz.

The city of Denver is promising a study on the effectiveness of its red light cameras.

Colorado Springs announced the end of its red light cameras just last week after studies showed they didn’t improve safety.

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  • Neil

    The have very short yellow lights so they can make more money. The public should show up in force to change the law. I drive all over the state. Denver’s lights go Yellow the to red immediately.

    • Joe Potosky

      Reminds me of Andy of Mayberry and Barney Fife. All they need now is Gomer Pyle running around yelling citizens arrest, citizens arrest.

    • joe

      the public should ask for jury trials, that would start to tie up the court system and back log the traffic court, it would eventually get to the point that they have to stop with the BS fines or hire more people to work in the system, but they can’t because all the fine money will be tied up in court.

      • chuck in st paul

        They don’t do jury trilas for misdemeanor traffic tickets. You can however make your court appearance and tell it to the judge. Good luck with that.

    • Michael Feldman

      I moved to Denver last year and I can tell you there is no city with as poor of a traffic grid anywhere on earth, this place is the home of the four way red light and it would kill them to let anyone turn left with a blinking red. When I drive to work I am battling side street lights that turn red an instant a car pulls up, if you see a green light 1000 ft. a head you better floor it or you will be stopped for an unusually long light for a side street. Anyway no cop no ticket, its called judgement and I dont accept leaving that to a camera.

      • Old Army

        I live in Colorado, and second the thought that Denver is one of the ugliest, least intelligently designed cities in the nation. I avoid it at all costs. It is also the home to an entrenched political party that is desperately looking for any means to get more money to keep its overall funding levels sufficient to continue programs that support its political base. Read that however you want to, but this enforcement is not about safety, it is about generating revenue using the powers of the police state. One more reason to leave Denver to those who love income redistribution by any means possible.

      • Always Independent

        Don’t feel too bad, In Santa Clarita CA, my son 19 just got a citation for sitting in a park with some friends after 9PM. All they were doing was sitting and talking. No alcohol, no drugs and no noise. Sheriff gave them a Stinkin $250 fine for being in a place thats supposed to belong to the people. Can’t wait for the next call from a law enforcement benevolent association to call looking for a donation.

      • Lock Jaw

        Government is out of control.
        Pull their funding the legal way…
        You pay for these chains with your own money and labor.

    • Jawal

      White liberals own CO and now you stupid citizens in the state of CO will begin to see the to ‘o’ become an ‘a’ meaning you will be CA light. Vote these butt monkeys out off office and get take your state back. Apathy breeds tyranny.

      • DaveLCAC

        Well said! They believe government control is how life should be maaged. With that mindset, they promote and increase government at every turn. Then, they must have “creative” ways to get funds to feed the beast.

    • JimBob

      OK You either misjudged the line or barely let the car creep slightly over it. You made a real effort to stop but everyone knows the law. Get out of your car and check the line. If you are on the line or over it then I would go ahead and proceed through the red light. You have already broken the law and will be ticketed for the full infraction anyway. Side impact airbags are highly recommended for this maneuver.

      • Denise

        I like this. Everybody at the line get out and look. That should make a statement.

    • Bob

      Question: Many years ago I worked for a community’s engineering operation. We had traffic engineering standards which dictated the length of the yellow light based primarily on the speed limit. Are Colorado’s and the city’s traffic engineering standards being applied correctly to these intersections?

      • Mr T

        They(KCNC if I recall right) have checked this in the past and Denver unlike most cities in the metro area uses the minimum federal legal length of time. The find now that the rear end collisions has increased even in areas but it is about making money for the city. I stopped at the red light and backed up to be behind the line after midnight no cars or pedestrians in sight and even though I moved behind the line I still got the ticket.

      • James C. Walker

        Yellow intervals should NOT be set per the posted speed limits, because posted limits are often well below the 85th percentile speeds of free flowing traffic under good conditions. Yellows should be timed for the ACTUAL 85th percentile approach speeds, that is IF safety is the real goal. Timing them for under posted speed limits IS the scam in many cites. If the posted speed limit is 10 mph below the 85th percentile speed (common), this makes the yellow about 0.8 seconds too short and THAT is what makes red light cameras profitable. See the science on our website. James C. Walker, National Motorists Association, , Ann Arbor, MI

    • joe blow

      thanks Obama. This is the hope and change we wanted!

      • Karencolorado

        Wait…. you’re blaming Denver traffic cameras on the President? If you don’t like beling controlled and over-policed and stripped of your privacy… put the blame where it belongs… on the citizens of Denver who are declining to fight for those rights.

      • Rob Adkerson

        I want the man out of office as much as any rational person, but Obama is not responsible for the rules regarding whether or not you can go a few inches over the white line.

      • J Topping

        Are you forgetting that Colorado is a Republican state? Obama had nothing to do with this. You need to address your state Republican Party about this.

    • matt

      I hope the city installs camras at every intersection. You act like this a victimless crime. when infact motor vehicle accidents are the sixth leading preventable cause of death in the United States (45,800 people died and 2.4 million were injured in 2005).

    • Barry Sontoro

      Don’t reply to the mailed ticket. It’s not certified mail. You opt in when you reply.

      Second get a license plate cover from ebay and keep it in the down mode when coming to one of those camera intersections. No plate no ID. or go to hide plates dot com

  • Scoot

    …and so it begins. Look to the UK for what’s next, they’ll be giving us tickets for anything and everything with these illegal, unconstitutional unmanned cameras of theirs. Got 1776?

    • JackDonlan

      Need to Occupy City Hall and fill the room with protests.

    • JohnDave

      This is a idea who’s time has not come. I’ll just put a shield on my
      plate that blocks photographs, then good luck SOB’s.

    • Francisco D

      Why aren’t we voting out the criminals in our local governments that are putting these cameras in?

      thats the real question.

      • David Weiser

        Cause no one but criminals are allowed on a ticket.

    • Pagoda

      All of you suck. Learn how to drive. Those lines are there for a reason. I am so ticked when people cross the line. You know that if you see a yellow light, you have enough time to decide whether or not to go through the intersection or stop. If not, you are not paying attention. Yes, it sounds like big brother, but I know that most cops won’t do anything about it. This way, they can catch you people who do this. Learn how to drive.

      • Paul

        Hey Pagoda, did you know that lights run a full timing cycle if there is no idication of a vehicle stopped at the light? Did you know that the US Post Office sent out a notice to all their drivers to move their vehicles front bumper into the white line so the timer would shorten, thus saving GAS! Yes, thats right, the timer goes full cycle even if you are the only driver at a light, but if the sensor on the light detects a vehicle, it shortens that duration. By the way, you are a socialist. And, I can say that because I have spent 3 different times living in socialist/communist countries in past, have you?

    • David Weiser

      I don’t understand how you can tell from the driver’s seat how many inches your tires are away from the line. This is stupid, how are people losing this fight in court? This obviously a desperate ploy to generate cash for badly cash-strapped city. I’m waiting for the day when you get a ticket for the way you walk in and out of the front door of your house. Maybe then the cowardly American public will stand up in a way that will get results, not like the Occupy this or that morons. Until then, we will get what we deserve from our Bullying American Government

    • yoohoo

      nothing a couple of well placed rounds could not solve…

      • M.B.

        No…I have beat these Redlight tickets several times. It is really easy. Just write them the folowing: “I will CONDITIONALLY ACCEPT your charge upon presentment of a Verified Complaint (signed under the penalties of Perjury)”. [they can NEVER do this] “Furthermore, I would like to know from you how it is possible that your REDLIGHT corporation is allowed to impersonate a Judicial Officer and to make Judicial Determinations?” [ALL REDLIGHT CITATIONS ARE FRAUD) IF they threaten to take away your DL or ruin your credit, then conditionally accept their OFFER TO CONTRACT upon payment of $250000.00. [This keeps you in Honor and them in Dishonor]

        Lastly, you do have the option to REJECT any offer to contract within 72 Hours in accordance with the federal fair debt collection practices act. It doesn’t matter if it is a cell phone contract, mortgage contract or a Citation.

      • buckeyeman

        My thoughts exactly. A low velocity (22 short) rifle with a telescopic sight could knock these cameras out. One would have to be careful because of the 360 degree view that is provided by having cameras in all directions. Where is the patriot with the cojones to end this socialist blight?

      • Jonny Ninja

        It’s funny you guys say that. I think about it every time I come to an intersection with one of these unconstitutional cameras. I look at the distance from me to the camera and I think “I nail targets all the time with my glock from this distance at the range.” If enough people do it, what can they do?

    • RF Delderfield

      As a tourist I got a parking ticket in Statford Upon Avon, England while parked in a private pay lot. I fully paid and returned well within time, but inadvertently put the payment stub the wrong side up on the dashboard (confusing 3″ piece of paper full of colored numbers and digital coding on both sides). Anyway, 3 weeks later back in California I get the nastiest $157 collections notice threatening to ruin my credit and possibly have the DMV suspend my license! That is where we’re headed anywhere in the world. I’ll never go back to England btw, that and the TSA made my little kid cry in terror at an attempted groping.

    • spike

      This is OUR governemnt that is doing this. Occupy the city chambers until they remove the cameras. Demand they remove the cameras. They used OUR money to install these cameras. We do not approve of such expenditures, do we? The government is supposed to serve the people, not the people serving government. The people did not approve these installations, did they? Demand they be removed!

    • TW

      Go out and paint over all the white lines. Problem sovled

    • JOHN

      In my town [assume others], the cameras are owned and operated by a PRIVATE company. They send the city their cut of the loot. They like to hire ex-sheriffs and such to keep the scam going. Nice work if you can get it [but highly un-American in terms of freedom from harrassment and tyranny].

      First they go up at the most dangerous intersections [for your protection]. Then they go up everywhere else in order to maximize the loot. Vote the cameras out!

    • Private Person

      Dismiss the photograph. The company taking the picture doesn’t appear to be a licensed private investigation agency. They are engaging in surveillance activity that requires a license. No license means it may not be admissible.

  • garygoode

    Well, now you know—-the city has all it’s employees on the same page. If you don’t find the citizen guilty of anything, even the most minor of violations, you will not get paid!

    So, you see the reasoning of all these frivolous tickets.

    I wonder what what would happen if everyone started buying as much as they can on as in retaliation to the cities heavy-handed approach to getting their pensions funded.

  • Christian

    This is an outrage. The US Constitution guarantees the right to dface your accusers in court. These “traffic judges” are simply scam artists that will find you guilty no matter what. It is a total outrage.

    The only way to get out of one of these is to pay an attorney to contest it for like $150. I personally rather pay a lawyer $300 to fight the damn thing then give these pirates any of my money.

    • USArmyCombatMedic

      Or you could, you know, just stop before the line. How hard is that? Tell me. Do you need new brakes? What is so effin hard about stopping a line?

      • Jonny Ninja

        You miss the entire point. It’s a matter of principal. IF we accept this, what’s next? Cameras in everyone’s car? Judging your mood and intentions? Maybe it emails a ticket to the cops saying that you have road rage, and they ticket you. The fact is, these damn things go against the constitution in every way, shape, and form. Just like forced blood withdrawals on DWI suspects. Does that mean I think that people should drive drunk or run red lights? No, it doesn’t. It means that to be found guilty of any crime, there should be a HUMAN accuser (cop) who has gathered enough evidence to prosecute you within the bounds of the constitution and bill of rights. That is not what is happening anymore. It’s wrong. We are being turned into a police state, slowly but surely. I am not a conspiracy theorist, either. I don’t subscribe to the Alex Jones line of thinking, but it doesn’t mean that I am oblivious to obvious violations of my rights as an American.

      • slydog

        Well if you cross the line before the light turns red you have entered the intersection on yellow. According to state law if you enter on yellow you may proceed through the light.

    • Nick

      According to the story, I believe the individual faced his accuser in court and lost.

      • Doc5

        Face his accuser?seriously? Are you that obtuse?
        They brought in the camera as someone noted. Sheeple!

      • bob

        Should people get a speeding ticket for going 41mph in a 40mph zone? Safety laws are supposed to protect people, not generate revenue

      • Phantom II

        No, Nick, he didn’t face his accuser. He faced a tax collector, a meter maid in a black robe.

      • Dan Schwitalla

        So they brought the camera into the court to testify?

    • MOS was 71331

      “The US Constitution guarantees the right to dface your accusers in court.” Was that a Freudian typo? There are certainly times when it would be attractive to d[e]face your accusers.

  • Sentra

    quit your whining. Any recently licensed teenager will tell you that if your cross the line that yes – you have run it. The line is there for a reason. Maybe if you would pay more attention, and actually OBEY TRAFFIC LAWS you wouldn’t get such tickets.

    • Sam E Moore Jr

      If I were You would be the last person on Earth to know .
      One easily suspects .. Your Lights are on but ain’t no body at home .

  • Christian

    This is an outrage. The US Constitution guarantees the right to face your accusers in court. These “traffic judges” are simply scam artists that will find you guilty no matter what. It is a total outrage.

    The only way to get out of one of these is to pay an attorney to contest it for like $150. I personally rather pay a lawyer $300 to fight the damn thing then give these pirates any of my money.

    BTW, beating a red light means going PAST the line, not a bit on top of it. This is a tax scam. Denver and Boulder do this…. why? Because they are run piece stupid leftwing Democrats, that is why. You don’t see this nonsense in Conservative areas like Douglas County or The Springs.

    • Ray In Colorado Springs

      The last paragraph of the article says it all. I’ll quote ist for you below:
      “Colorado Springs announced the end of its red light cameras just last week after studies showed they didn’t improve safety” Colorado Springs is in the most conservative county in Colorado.

    • Idiotmitten

      They are scoring this like football. Breaking the plane is a violation (or score).

  • Robert Mino

    The injustice is that few people are aware of this There should be a sign at the line stating STOP HERE ON RED. They do, criminally conspire and set people up with the short yellow and a timeing from the previous light that makes this happen more often then it normally would. People who brake hard for a red light rather then running it are to be commended not punished.It is way more serious to run a red then to stop short in the crosswalk but these bean counters don’t understand that! If you stop short of the line and pull ahead to see enough of the traffic comming from the left to safely turn right you have 75.00 stolen from you by these trewps.

  • Jeremy Hymes-Balsley

    You know, I hear this argument alot. Photo-enforced speed traps and red light cameras are ‘money grabs’ and are somehow unconstitutional, and what they’re getting you for are ‘technicalities’ that don’t happen otherwise. Let me just put the lie to this right now.

    I’m a pedestrian here in Denver. I cross many intersections on foot, and when I come up to those intersections, I notice what drivers do on various light colors. On Colorado, every time I see a yellow light, the most often response I see are drivers speeding up to fly through the intersection. In fact, I even see a few cars blow through a red light right after it turns red because people sped up to get through it. It doesn’t matter how long the yellow light is, and cars feel they have a right to pull up into the intersection. Steady red light, car pulling up to a right-turn, or even to a left turn? They’ll frequently pull right into the crosswalk, and some of them even have the gall to return my dirty look when I walk up to them, then around their car, parked in the path I have to walk, forcing me close to cross traffic.

    So lose the high and mighty attitude that this is just some sort of cash grab by Denver. it’s not. it’s designed to protect people like me and my wife from people like you who think they have the right to pull their cars up right to the intersection like some drag racers on the Indy 500. You don’t want the fine? Follow the d-mn law. Thank you very much.

    • bombshelterbob

      spoken like a true constipated socialist JHB. Everybody is supposed to treat you with respect, but you get to have your snarky little attitude toward them because you’re “special”. You people kinda remind me of the tourists in Yellowstone that walk to take the pictures of the Buffalo and get excited when the Buffs don’t act in socially responsible ways! Cars and Buffalos just do what they do, just sayin.

    • Mike

      I understand what you are saying, “Follow the law.”

      So, do you report taxes on an item you sell at a yard sell? Why not? It’s the d-m law? We could go on all day.

      So, let’s look at the main problem here: The shortened yellow light.
      Car and Driver magazine did an excellent job covering this issue several years
      ago. They found that the slice of money the city receives by contract with
      the camera vendors increase as the yellow light time decreases – in other
      words, the more likely they are to write tickets and generate volume, the bigger
      piece of pie goes to the county. It’s a rip off, plain and simple.

      For this to be about safety, they would have to socialize this with commercials,
      get everyone on board, then implement the program in phases at various
      intersections – and – INCREASE the yellow light time so people aren’t slamming
      their breaks at yellow. The Car & Driver study found that wherever the cameras
      went up, there was a huge spike in rear end collisions.

      I respect pedestrians, and we are all both drivers and pedestrians.
      But to think the streets are fundamentally built and maintained for pedestrians
      is false. This needs to be implemented so it can be followed or it’s just a
      dishonest way to get money – I hate to break it to you, but they don’t care
      about your safety, sir.

    • Idiotmitten

      Drag racers don’t race in the Indy 500. Drag racers race on a drag strip.

    • POed Peasant

      Jeremy says:

      “So lose the high and mighty attitude that this is just some sort of cash grab by Denver. it’s not. it’s designed to protect people like me and my wife from people like you who think they have the right to pull their cars up right to the intersection like some drag racers on the Indy 500. You don’t want the fine? Follow the d-mn law. Thank you very much.

      Benjamin Franklin says:

      “Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither”

  • Lesson "Relearned"

    I recently received this same traffic ticket and I too was upset and realize I’m still a bit bothered by it because the image showed the line had eroded away in various areas of the “clearly” marked line. Plus, this “old” yet only recently enforced rule of the road is only intermittently monitored at various intersections. I’m not sure if CDOT is attempting a new study or the city is researching its laws to come up with more ways to take even more money out of our pockets but, that’s what civil servants such as myself have noticed. Over 15 years of driving and the only good thing to come out of this is that I still remember this law and am more aware of it again.

    • bombshelterbob

      How many steps are you people in Denver away from old Joe Stalin’s “charge of the month” arrest policies? Maybe it’s time for you to take your city back like those guys back east just did, the citizens got together and simply threw out EVERYBODY and replaced ’em with real people! OWS is just a liberal brain-f**t, that citizen’s revolt was the beginning of the real revolution!

  • gray-beard

    “There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws”

    Ayn Rand.

    • Rearden_Metal

      OMG. I just read that quote last night. Scary.

    • David Muth

      Exactly right!

    • Right on!


    • whatehsaid


    • Phin


    • rogueoperator

      I was just thinking of this quote. Cheers to you for posting it!

  • Sean M

    I received this very ticket and was personally outraged. I might as well have been held up at gunpoint by a police officer in an alley. This is theft of the public on a grand scale in the common guise of “your safety”. The tickets are set up intentionally to make it extremely inconvienient to fight with mulitple trips to the downtown courthouse. They also do not carry any points on your record so that they basically force you to pay out of nuisance. Anyone making a reasonable wage will not deduce that it is worth the time to go to court (several hours plus travel time plus parking fees) and that is the balance that the “lawmakers” obviously intended to strike.

    Furthurmore, to associate this with “street racers” as the above post attempts is not even remotely a logiical connection to the people getting these tickets. I would be curious to know if that pedestrian has ever stepped off of the curb without the walk symbol or still been in the crosswalk after the walk symbol ended. If so then you deserve a ticket for your great offense in the name of safety to the public under this thinking.

  • gadso

    If you’re not served the ticket by a police/traffic officer in person, you don’t have to pay it. Throw the ticket in the garbage and say you never received it. It truly is as simple as that. Otherwise, you can go out and destroy these cameras, you have my full support.

    • nygrump

      hat could be problematic – they can put out a warrant on you, you get stopped at a warrantless TSA citizenship check and ZAP you’re busted. These antiamerican jerks alwatys fly their little flags…

  • Christine Chambers

    I knew that Denver was desperate for money, but really now. Do cops get tickets for doing the samething, or for speeding, or for running a red light for no apparent reason. They too must follow all traffic laws or face the same tickets that everyone else gets…

  • Chunga

    Paintball the cameras.

    • sean patriot


  • Herewulf

    “I didn’t go through the red light. I just didn’t stop at the white line,”
    Yeah, like “I didn’t punch you in the face, my fist just didn’t stop swinging until after it connected.”
    You’re behind the wheel of a vehicle, it is YOUR responsibility to pay attention and stop when and where the law requires. Break the minor traffic law, get a ticket. If you don’t want to pay the fine, then pay ATTENTION.

    • p dirt

      You must work for Redflex. A few INCHES over the line? Draconian and procrrustean all at the same time. What’s next, face crimes?

  • Sean

    There you have it, folks. If you stop over the white line, just blow through the red light. You’re getting a ticket anyway, so you may as well not have to sit stopped for that 2-3 minutes. If enough people do this, Denver will wise up. Occupy traffic signals!

  • Karl Magnus

    So let’s install an NHRA “tree” at every intersection.
    I’m sure that drag racers will appreciate it.
    Money-grubbing pols are ruining America.

    • Phantom II

      Karl, you’d love driving in Germany. The traffic lights there do, indeed, go from red to yellow, then green. It’s a hoot. NHRA at every intersection.

  • Lawrence Sanchez

    We down here in Albuquerque just voted out the red light cameras. They shortened the yellow lights, caused rear end accidents to skyrocket, and became a net drain on the system. Don’t take these things lying down, Denver! The cameras are a massive scam.

  • whatsfairisfair

    Instead of nitpicking drivers, they should crack down on the pedestrians that think the “countdown clock” on the crossing signals tell them how much time they have to get across, ignoring the fact that the red hand was already telling them “do not start walking.” Peds that start walking after the red hand has flashed, thinking they still have time, are a hazard that drivers turning onto a street have to avoid – potentially causing accidents. It also jams up traffic on streets where drivers are trying to turn, as they have no time left to make turns. If Denver is so hard up for cash, start ticketing jaywalkers.

  • Greg

    I blew through a red light about a month ago. Didn’t see it changing or that there was a cop watching me! She was pulling out of parking lot and got in right behind me. Then at the next light, another motorist got out of his car and complained to the officer about my driving. The cop got out and approached me. She said “don’t do it again.” And I haven’t, it was a mistake. For you do-gooder tattlers, mind your own business! No camera thankfully.

    • Mikey

      Cool story bro.

  • Joe

    burning down Denver and executing the politicians would be a good start

  • redshirtslookweird

    How much does the Denver Police Photo Enforcement Division cost to run each year? Probably more than they were bringing in. So they shortened the yellows and started nitpicking. Way to go Denver, you’re paying for some slobs in a dark room to nitpick over your stopping abilities. That’s it.

  • Occupussie

    Hey, don’t you know? You people gotta PAY for these greedy government servants…..with their very nice salaries, lavish pensions and cadillac health care. Not until GOVERNMENT UNIONS ARE SMASHED AND OUTLAWED will this greed stop

  • Tim

    It is all about the city and the camera operating company making money. It has nothing to do with public safety. It is time to revolt and to vote all officials out of office.

  • Treaded On

    This happened to me a couple years ago. A 1-second yellow, and a stop with the nose of the car just over the line. The ticket came in my daughter’s name since the car was registered to her. I sent out 6 letters to various city and state officials in protest. The only concrete result was the ticket being reissued in my name. A state legislator replied that he “shared my concern” but did anything happen? No.

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