Student Says She Was Forced To Drop Class After Seizure

ASPEN, Colo. (CBS4) – A former student at Colorado Mountain College says she was forced to drop a class because she had a seizure.

Channing Seideman was in the middle of an emergency medical technician class when she had an epileptic seizure. She said faculty members asked her to drop the class, saying the episode was too distracting to other students and there could be more.

Seideman said it was a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act and she’s filed a complaint against the school.

She doesn’t want other people to experience the same thing.

“They’re allowed to have a seizure in class. They don’t have to get kicked out. It’s kind of just paving the way for other people with disabilities or epileptics,” Seideman told CBS4.

Colorado Mountain College did not return calls from CBS4. It told the Aspen Times it cares about all its students.

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  1. jasperddbgghost says:

    Liberal college professors will claim to be for the rights of people with seizures.

    ……they just don’t want to be near somebody with a seizure.

    …..same goes for blacks. That’s why their neighborhoods are a sea of white.

    1. mitchell says:

      No kidding, can’t have an emergency medical class have a medical emergency in it. They are mad they didn’t know what to do. ADA specifically mentions elilepsy on page one, doesn’t matter the class, this is a clear violation.

      1. Flashman1854 says:

        The key question is this: if this student was taking a class for emergency medical technicians, this presupposes she is studying to be one, or at least participate as one.

        It is very unfortunate she has this condition, but it seems she is very unqualified for a position as an emergency medical tech. If she were on a ‘call’, with someone’s life in the balance, and she was overcome with a seizure (which are very unpredictable) she would be unable to carry out her duties.

        So, why is she in such a class.

        Also, as Clint Eastwood once said (in his role as a hotel / restaurant owner) ADA is no more than a money grab. It is horrible legislation.

      2. Brent says:

        In EMS you work in teams because anything could happen to anyone at any time for any reason. On any given aid call there will be at least four EMTs and/or paramedics. Most fire dept. require all firefighters to be EMT’s. I have been on scenes with over ten EMS personnel for one minor medical call. Diabtics pose a much more likelihood of passing due to the erratic diets and eating times working in that field. You don’t get two 15 minute breaks and a 1/2 hr for lunch. You run the calls until you get a break.

        And FYI, seeing a grand mal seizure it not going to ruin your life. Lets get real for a minute. A two year old temper tantrum is usually far more dramatic.

      3. Omaha Bob says:

        I’m a surgeon. What if my team is operating on you and the resident holding the knife has a seizure? If something “important” is lacerated, your day just got ruined. Do you think she should be able to pilot an airliner because of the ADA? What if she were the co-pilot and the captain just had a heart attack? Better hope she doesn’t have one then. If she does, I’d rather you be on the palne instead of me.

      4. John Sheridan says:

        Hey, Flashman, just because Clint is an actor doesn’t mean he knows what he is talking about…..just think Sean Penn…..

      5. Soldier1 says:

        …Or Ronald Reagan…
        Just Sayin

      6. SpongeBob says:

        In reply to ‘Ohama Bob’. You sure sound like a surgeon, over confident, self absorbed, egocentric, smart alice. Obviously you became a surgeon to satisy your lust for money or validate your “greatness”, certainly not because you have an ounce of compassion for you fellow human beings. Of all people, you should be in this gals corner. Shame on you!

      7. Beez says:

        She shouldn’t be forced to drop the class, that seems fairly obvious.

        However, as to her efficacy in her choice of career…epileptics have curtailed driving privileges in many states, depending on the frequency of their seizures. It would seem prudent that this could apply to other situations that could be life-threatening. Without knowing more about her situation, it’s hard to gauge where she may fall within that spectrum…but it seems obvious that there does exist some threshold that, once crossed, would seem to rule out a number of career options. It is not cruel, bigoted or uncompassionate to point this out for consideration.

      8. yoni says:

        i think omaho boob is a ‘sturgeon’ not a surgeon. fish are notorious for not being able to distinguish between taking a class and entering a profession. swim far little buddy.

    2. Pony Runner says:

      Well put! Libs attempt to control other’s behavior with laws like the Disabilities Act, yet when the law might apply to them……..not so much. Hypocrites as always.

    3. txcyclond says:

      Why anytime anything is in the news and not pleasant it’s the fault of any political party? Most in this country are so busy trying to blame one political party or the other for everything that no one is doing anything to make things better… everyone just wants to blame blame blame… not fix😉 In the mean time the only ones getting paid for the blame game live in the beltway while we all support all of them no matter their party…

      1. roboko says:

        See the comment right above yours on my screen:

        “Pony Runner

        Well put! Libs attempt to control other’s behavior with laws like the Disabilities Act, yet when the law might apply to them……..not so much. Hypocrites as always.”

      2. ethan says:

        because this is a ‘political issue’ in the sense that someone’s rights were violated. people here are hyper-sensitive to political attacks against them. since most are linked from Drudge, most are conservative, and every single time a piece of news about a minority being treated unfairly, or someone getting wrecked by a corporation, it immediately becomes the republicans fault. in this case, this person’s rights were violated by professors/teachers at a college, a stereotypically liberal establishment and we the conservatives, who are consistently the victims of repeated attacks, being called racist, even when we’re black ourselves, etc, are jumping at the chance to point out the hypocrisy on the left side.

      3. Bev Stevens says:

        Nicely said, ethan.

      4. jj says:

        …because it was linked from Drudge Report. That’s also why people here are venting about “the blacks” when this article has nothing to do with “the blacks”.

      5. Rod Anders says:

        Get rid of lawyers and politicians, and things will radically change. I’ve known too many people who stopped to help accident victims and got sued as a result. First time I became aware of this, I stopped helping others.

    4. I'm with ya brother says:

      The liberals I know hand their wallets to blacks just passing them in the street, usually muttering “please dont rape me”, and thats the male liberals.

    5. jj says:

      How do you know the professor is a liberal? Who do you think signed the ADA into law? Do you assume that everything you agree with is conservative and everything you disagree with is liberal, and consequently evil? Are you in second grade?

      1. Bill Vernon says:

        That’s awesome. They haven’t learned to critically think yet. Confirmation bias.

      2. tantrim says:

        We assume the professor is a liberal because it fits the criteria as most are radical in their views against individual rights.

    6. sickoffools says:

      that’s true, all talk and no walk. They hide behind their Prius and travel on jet liners, they eat organic and shop at Walmart, they march for civil rights yet deny rights of the disabled, they champion radical Islam but don’t dare set foot in the Middle East. Liberals are loons, idiots to the core.

    7. Brian says:

      @Flashman1854: Nonsense. In many smaller communities you’re going to get two EMTs and that’s it. I’m sorry, but I have to agree that a seizure disorder would be disqualifying for the position of EMT in my department – and rightly so.

    8. snuff says:

      Hey flashman, she was not working as an EMT, she was in a classroom. You want to start telling people they cannot take a spanish class because you think they are not qualified to speak it………….I have a better idea let’s just decide what everyone is qualified to do at around age 7 or 8 and send them to specialized schools. Who the hell do people think they are wanting to decide for themselves what subjects they can study…outlandish!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Barney Loves Franks says:

    Can liberals be any more transparent about the true nature of their “compassion”? Is the irony of this lost on anyone with a brain? An EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIAN class????????? Could there be a better scenario to show these kids what they’re getting into??????

    My heart goes out to this girl. On the upside…another conservative in the making.

    1. Kimo says:

      you know what they say. A Conservative is a Liberal that was mugged.

  3. Fluffy Teegar says:

    I would think this is real practice in an emergency medical tech class. This is so messed up! I’m sure she notified her instructors of her needs and possible health concerns before hand.

    1. Mary says:

      Of course she notified the teacher and the school. The teacher has no say in this it is completely up to the administration who IS in the wrong. The SCHOOL told her she was disruptive NOT the teacher.

    2. TheRealKingMax says:

      Fluffy, I think your comment is the most intteligent statement I’ve read today!

      I cannot believe these clowns dropped this student.

      “So, boys and girls, what did we learn today”?

      “If a fellow technician has an epileptic seizure, KICK ‘EM TO THE CURB, and carry on”.

      “Class dismissed, and when she calms down, drag her out with you….”.

      Absolutely inexcusable.

      Obamacare is already going into effect?

      1. royp says:

        So let the patient die while the EMT helps the other EMT? Or send 4-6 EMTz’sa on every call (who is paying for that??)

        C;mon, the ADA is a great law, it’s the cases like this that abuse it that and it a bad name.

        Diabetes can be controlled, epylepsy cannot.

    3. no tyranny says:

      I have to agree a blatant violation of the ADA. I hope she sues the school and gets compensated for her losses.

  4. BJ says:

    What a croc…an EMT teacher and class cannot deal with a student’s epileptic siezure!

    1. Gary says:

      Those who can do….those who can’t teach.

      1. Larz Blackman says:

        And those who are foolish and ignorant repeat that saying.

      2. me321 says:

        Larz. you must be a TEECHER

      3. stan says:

        An old Chinese proverb with roots going back to their civil service. If one could not pass the test to be a civil servent they wouldbe required to teach others how to pass the test. Doing so would force them to learn every detail and then be able to pass the test.

      4. John says:

        Couldn’t have been said any better!!!

  5. Sofia says:

    Theater of absurd. A person prone to seizures is planning to become an emergency medical technician.

    1. Sally says:

      Which she will not be able to do. She will be unable to become a certified EMT. Not to say she shouldn’t be able to take the class.

      1. Brad Statham says:

        Epilepsy does not disqualify a person from obtaining an EMT license.

    2. Darrell says:

      The article didn’t say she was wanting to be an EMT. It just says she was taking the clase. Don’t put words in her mouth.

      1. David Bennett says:

        Hear, hear!

      2. John says:

        Exactly, Darrell. What the…?

    3. joe says:

      your comment is short sighted and hateful. Epilepsy can often be controlled and the person lead a normal life. The youg lady may one day be an excellent EMT or even a doctor or surgeon. Dont count her out because of her condition now. Things change.

    4. Jennifer says:

      I have epilepsy and I am a registered dental assistant. Would you rather go back to the good old days when epileptics were placed into colonies and sterilized?

      1. Omaha Bob says:

        You are probably a very good registered dental assistant, Jennifer. If you have a seizure you might miss some plaque. If an EMT/surgeon/pilot has a seizure people can die. I’m sorry. I would let you be my dental assistant but would hesitate to let you intubate me (If I were in the position to make a choice) because a seizure while you are using a speculum can cause very bad complications. Some intubations are difficult with an anesthesiologist under ideal conditions.

      2. Tom Weaver says:

        Intubate with a speculum?! You mean a laryngoscope?

        I’m calling BS. No surgeon mixes up these two. Sorry.

      3. John says:

        I guess good old OBAMA BOB would. I’ve worked around enough Gods…I mean surgeons…to know that they are the coolest and don’t any of you, not even you, Jennifer, say such demeaning things that one of the great ones might come across.

      4. Tom Weaver says:

        Omaha Bob,

        EMT’s don’t intubate; Paramedics do.

        EMT’s spike bags for fluids, apply monitors to patients, and get a d-stick. They also help with getting the pt on the gurney or backboard.

        Paramedic and EMT are two different things entirely. One is 6 months of schooling, and the other is 2 years.

    5. Matt says:

      Yeah because a person with a minor disability should not be allowed to help other people. They should be locked away and discarded right? Are you seriously as stupid as you came across?

      1. sickofvools says:

        Good one Matt, Jackie Joyner (Flo Jo) was an olympic runner, she had epilepsy. Many people suffer from this condition which can be brought on any time of life. Maybe Bob could have a head injury and face seizures, or smoke one cig too many and have a petite mall. Epilepsy strikes many during all phases of life. Guess Bob is okay wit Illegals working here for we know not of their medical history which could be epilepsy. That one guy could be his cab driver and then what, Bob ? Hang on tight before you hit that wall.
        guess Bob wants to stop all blind people from singing, or the deaf from loving. Bob will push all wheelchairs off the cliff, I mean he’s sure they can walk, right ?

    6. Matt says:

      Are you seriously as stupid as you came across?

  6. Dave says:

    That prof probably just saved some lives… No offense, but I don’t want an EMT working on me who’s prone to violent seizures.

    1. ewblood says:

      I wouldn’t want an EMT working on me that has to have their delicate little psyche protected from the vision of someone having a seizure.

    2. Bob says:

      Just because she was taking the class doesn’t mean she was looking to be an EMT – ever hear of electives? I took a raquetball class in college, it doesn’t mean I was looking to be a Professional Raquetball player.

      1. Tom says:

        Awsome point Bob. I ofter wear baseball caps, I am not a baseball player. i love when liberals try to protect other liberals with stupidity and conjecture.

      2. WCH says:

        Bob, to be totally honest, you are not comparing ‘apples to apples’. You know it, You are being disingenuous. I can cite many a case where someone takes an inncuous class like ‘needlepoint.’ That is quite different as it is a leisure class which is exactly what you aforementioned Racquetball (which I have doubts as you should have known that it was spelled with a ‘c’ in there and most Racquestball people get ticked off to beat all heck if it is dropped — that’s how serious that is. Somehow, I don’t htink it was a typo.) a LEISURE class. Trying to learn or be certified (which is the ultimate ending for someone taking an EMT ‘class’) is a life-job. It is much more than a ‘leisure’ class. Even a CPR class though not nearly as relevant and important as a EMT course, while some might argue it as being a ‘pasttime’ type of class, one must be ‘into’ it in order to complete it yet it doesn’t mean that one is now a doctor or nurse or EMT. See the difference?

      3. Geoffreeee says:

        WCH… Please do not lecture people on spelling, when your comment contain errors in the spelling of the same word you are lecturing people on.

        Many companies will pay an employee extra salary/bonus, higher wages, etc. to obtain an EMT license. This lowers company insurance costs and allows the company to keep someone on hand who is capable of dealing with rare emergency situations. My company does this and I have heard of many others doing the same. This person performs their normal work duties everyday and available if the need arises.

        My point is, that there are different reasons a person might be taking an EMT class. Do not assume you know the extent of this woman’s disability.

    3. sickoffools says:

      could it be possible that she was just learning for schooling purposes only and not for field practice. Maybe she was advancing her knowledge for others who have this condition. not all people who learn become the characters they review about. So everyone at Home Depot is a contractor, licensed builder, plumber, painter with field knowledge and practice. Education does not mean vocation. Offense taken.

      1. Rand2012 says:

        Some of these comments claiming to be ‘conservative’ directly, or effectively, scare me a little.

        There should be nothing that trumps individual rights; unless by excersizing said rights, you violate another’s individual rights.

        That being said, there is no ‘right’ to be a student, get an education, take any class your heart desires, etc. You’re free to pursue these things, but there is no guarantee.

        The instructor is within his/her scope to remove a student at his/her discretion.

        I can’t figure out why this story is national news. The point isn’t whether she was going to be an EMT or not. There really is no point here… perhaps the instructor missed a good teaching opportunity. However, beyond that, this girl has no, and should not, have any recourse.

  7. Dave K says:

    Something ironic about a Emergency Medical Tech class dropping a student because she had a seizure. I would think that the instructor might use the occasion as a real life example of an event that they will likely see in the future. To ask any student to drop out for something that is not under their control is just plain wrong in any case.

    1. Omaha Bob says:

      Would it be ironic if a flight school dropped a student because he couldn’t fly an aircraft without a seizure? You should be on that flight to think about it.

      1. Dave S says:

        Bob, this is about whether or not she should be allowed to take a class, not practice some straw man profession you’ve dreamed up. I doubt that you’re a surgeon as you claim, but if you are I’m glad you chose that over neurology.

      2. sickoffools says:

        What about alcoholic pilots who fly passengers for years, or those who suffered heart attacks whle flying an aircraft ? What about that dwarfed person driving the public bus, or Steven Hawkins, maybe he shouldn’t receive any recognition cause he’s in a wheelchair as a parapalegic. Name one flight that came down due to an epileptic episode from a pilot while flying passengers, or is more from other pilot error and events. Most people with epilepsy can tell when they feel an episode coming on. You’d be surprised what conditions people have that fly passengers. Hang on Bob, here comes that wall again.

      3. John says:

        They should only let guys like you go on to become surgeons, though. You’ve got the perfect attitude to be one. You should keep working even if you get Parkinson’s also because I can just tell from your awesomeness that it wouldn’t affect your work.

  8. cass says:

    The compassion of the left: Take it outside (but then we’ll tell everyone we’re the only ones that cared about you and make your seizure all about us)

    1. Debby Kay says:

      Why is this a political issue? It’s a COLLEGE ADMINISTRATION issue. The article states that this young woman HAD A SEIZURE and was told she was too distracting and should withdraw from the class. HELLO, you pompous, arrogant jerks with no compassion- (Omaha Bob, thank GOD you’re not MY doctor!) NOT everything is political- I hope this girl sues the pants off that college and the instructors…and touche’ to the poster above who stated the obvious- a medical situation in an emergency medical class, and they couldn’t handle it. Outrageous and appalling.

  9. NotDeadYet says:

    She should have told them that the seizure was caused by her sex-change operation. They would have done anything to keep her in the class.

  10. MrPandy says:

    Oooh! The school is afaid that the poor widdle EMTs-to-be might see something icky. Of course, they’ll probably see things much more traumatic and disturbing their first week on the job, but let’s ignore the facts for now….

  11. Curtis Quico Reed says:

    While I agree that she should not have been kicked out for being “disruptive”…has anyone not thought that maybe–JUST MAYBE–if her plan is to become an “emergency medical technician”–that MAYBE it’s NOT A GOOD IDEA to have an EMT who has serious seizures? Her seizures could make her incapable of caring for a seriously injured accident victim and could die because she was not only not capable of performing her duties, but became an additional patient–and therefore a liability–for the other EMTs to treat?!

    1. greedyschool says:

      Then MAYBE just MAYBE the school shouldn’t have taken her money and let her enroll in the class if an epileptic shouldn’t be allowed to become an EMT.

    2. stewpatty says:

      Mr. Reed,

      Where oh where does it say that sh’e’s going to be an EMT? She was taking a class. Read carefully and don’t assume anything. I took a history of Art class, I’m definitely not an artist.

    3. Debby Kay says:

      There are many areas for EMTs to work- SHE WAS TAKING A FRIGGIN CLASS, AND THAT’S WHAT THIS ARTICLE IS ABOUT, it’s NOT about whether or not she should become an EMT… The article does not STATE WHY she is taking the class or what her plans are- In FACT, the article says that SHE HAD ONE SEIZURE. Did you know that ONE SEIZURE does not mean you have epilepsy?? Additionally, YOUR tendency to jump to conclusions demonstrates a lack of compassion for those who have this condition…

      1. sickoffools says:

        Well said Debby. It’s what I wrote earlier and tried to get Omaha Bob to realize but he’s driving into walls lately. she took a course and due to an episode was kicked out. You’re so right, one seizure does not mean epilepsy.

  12. ken says:

    why doesn’t she take flight training class too?

    1. James Braun says:

      Why not? I haven’t had a seizure in 22 years (and as long as I take my meds, I’ll never have one again) Yet the law does not allow me to take flying lessons. There are pilots flying commercial airliners who have had multiple heart attacks over the last 22 years. Is a heart attack less disruptive than a seizure? Maybe before you make a snarky comment you should learn a little bit about the disease

      1. stewpatty says:

        thank you Mr. Braun!

      2. Geoffreeee says:

        Good One.

      3. Omaha Bob says:

        She should be the co-pilot when the pilot has had a heart attack. The flight engineer should have brittle diabetes. Wouldn’t that be nice? They should recruit severe asthmatics for fire departments. Is that snarky? Can’t you accept the idea that no matter how nice you want to be that some people have health problems that can compromise job performance.

      4. yoni says:

        example fail. a pilot that has had multiple heart attacks would be placed on leave. no airline is that stupid. (source: i have worked for an airline)

    2. bellrigner says:

      She did with your wife.

  13. timothius says:

    In the 60’s the Army drafted a number of epileptics, I remember watching Grand Mal seizures in the chow line and even at the rifle range. The Army didn’t kick these people out! So why should a professor of an Emergency Medical Technicians class kick someone out? Stupid Just stupid! However, in an emergency do I have time for my rescuer to have a seizure?

    1. James Braun says:

      It is not that your last question is without merit, but for a great many epileptics, the odds of having a seizure on any given day are extremely small. My last seizure was 22 years ago, but because all epileptics are treated the same, I’ll never be able to get a pilots license or adopt a kid in certain jurisdictions. And if I did (God forbid) have a seizure while driving and cause an accident, my civil and criminal liability would be extensive (as compared to that of a drunk driver, whose liability is limited by the fact that he was “impaired” when he made the decision to drive).

      Moreover, if you are worried about your EMT having a seizure, maybe you ought to also be worried about a heart attack, or diabetic shock, or mental breakdown. THe conditions which cause these are far more prevalent

      1. Ann-Marie says:

        I havn’t had a seizure in over 25 years. I take my medicine. I’m also an RN. My work was never impaired. People have all sorts of health problems. This is just stupid.

      2. Kris McAllister says:

        Previous interviews with her (google her name) state that she has seizures daily, often multiple times so it would appear that the drugs are not working for her type of epilepsy, which from looking at medical sources online is about 20% of the cases. In the previous articles she stated that she has had seizures up to full loss of consciousness, and has a service dog as recently as April of this year that helps her with things. That’s all well and good.

        I’ve looked into this story a bit on multiple news places and it states that she has had 2 seizures on campus while she has been there, I have a feeling that they are the more severe variety, or the administration wouldn’t notice her gasping once in a while or jerking her head. The type of epilepsy she has can be aggravated by decision making, tiredness, stress or sensory overload, which on a college campus are all too common.

        I wish her well, but if her seizures are truly distracting and severe, I do hesitantly side with the administration on this. I really hope she finds a great career where her condition won’t hinder her.

    2. stan says:

      I was in the Army 68-71. During basic training we had some guys (draftees)with medical problems who shouldn’t have been there due to serious medical problems. Typically they were released after 90 days, which at the timeit ment they would be eligidgable for VA benifits.

  14. stop2think says:

    I never knew seizures were covered by ADA. Why? Are people with blue eyes covered since they are more senstive to the sun?

    1. James Braun says:

      I’m just curious. Are you saying that people with epilepsy who are subjected tp irrational discrimination should not be protected under the ADA, or are you arguing that people with blue eyes are truly disabled

      Me personnaly, I think that people who post dumb comments on the internet are disabled and should be covered under the ADA

    2. RJ OGuillory says:

      Well,….Stop2think,….perhaps if you’d follow through with your purported name, and “stop2think”,..you would understand that being epileptic is a form of “disability”….

      …..therefore, any action that an organization takes that discriminates against the disabled person, any policy or action that separates the “disabled” person from normally accepted policy, …is a violation of the law….

      …I was discovered at the age of 49 to have been genetically epileptic my whole life, and yet the seizures have really started to flare-up as I get older. I worked for 23 years for the US Department of Defense, and after two decades of being a Federally Protected Whistle-Blower, and absorbing years of abuse from my chain-of-command, they finally had to settle an ADA Complaint against their organization and pay for me to retire,….

      ….but again, much of that abuse was due to their misunderstanding related to the ADA….for example,…..one of my idiot Supervisors demanded that I have a “performance improvement conversation” with he and other unidentified executives while speaking over a speaker-phone hook-up to a room with an unknown number of people listening in…..the nature of the conversation was directly linked to my genetic illness, the epilepsy,….as well as the emotional and mental aspects of dealing with the disease. So, my chain of command expected me to discuss my mental health over a speaker phone, into an office with an unknown number of unknown people listening in,….

      ….the court decided that this wasn’t really a”reasonable accommodation” and they lost their case…..

      I agree that an epileptic employed as an EMT is a bit of a problem,…but that is between the epileptic and their employer,..not the school…..in fact, the school just set themselves up for a potentially huge loss in a lawsuit, and frankly, for being so dense, they deserve to lose,…..that is the point of the ADA law,….

      …you cannot discriminate based upon illness, and in those cases where policy or dogma violates a person’s right to “reasonable accommodation”,…..they are just dumb and deserve to pay-up.

      Regards,

      RJ O’Guillory
      Author-
      Webster Groves-The Life of an Insane Family

  15. ravenbeck says:

    Was it a first time seizure for her? Have they discovered the cause? Seizures are highly treatable. There are people who hold many professions, including in the medical field, who have epilepsy yet can lead normal lives while taking medication. Let’s not assume anything here.

    The ADA covers obese people for pete’s sake. (People who can actually make a choice whether to eat or not. I don’t see why they wouldn’t cover people with a legitimate medical ailment/disease.)

  16. bo manning says:

    I’ve suffered with seizures since 1991; so I know how debilitating these are.
    My medicine helps now; but the most embarrassing thing is to wake up from these, and see all the people standing around looking at you.
    This is even worse than that. For her to go through the seizure, and then to be embarrassed again by her college; is a disgrace.
    I hope you have a health; and wonderful life….

    1. Omaha Bob says:

      Wouldn’t it be embarrassing to find out you crashed a plane full of people? Or you woke up and your trauma patient was dead? Much better for the school to let her go through that be embarrassed about having a seizure in class, right?

      1. Bif says:

        Omaha Bob: suck my d**k

  17. Ben Dover says:

    No child left behind except for those with epilepsy?

  18. Dave says:

    There isn’t any real reason to publish the fact that epilepsy is caused by a “dumb and deaf” demon spirit, especially in medical circles , as no one will believe it. However, for those of you who seek wisdom, this is the very spirit Jesus cast out of a young boy in the Bible. Read if for yourself: Mark 9:17 – 29

    1. Jennifer says:

      What? Is this an attempt at humor or your actual belief? If this is your belief, I can tell you that I am a Christian and an epileptic. There is a difference between possession and a medical condition. I have met a few Christians like yourself. One was quite satisfied when I experienced seizures, as I was rebelling against God for wearing pants. Why don’t you do a little research or will you not believe it?

  19. playtheirgame says:

    Just tell them you’re here illegally. They’ll waive tuition and excuse you from having to take any of the tests as they are an affront to your superior culture.

  20. Deskboy says:

    Go get them young lady. We all have a disability of some kind or another. It is rather obvious what it is for the faculty of this college.

    They were born with their head squared up the rectum.

    PS. If you were in my class, I would not have been able to concentrate on my studies.

  21. Jack P says:

    Seizures left uncontrolled can be life threatening. She should have been referred to a physician for an evaluation to determine if she is physically able to continue in the class. Maybe all she needed was a slight adjustment to her meds and the problem would have been solved. I spent 30 yrs as a Human Resources executive and this is the type of policy we followed. Without exception, the employee’s meds were adjusted and he/she returned to work without further incident. Colorado Mountain College should be “gigged” on this one and be required to develop a policy which covers these kinds of situations if they do not already have one.

    1. Leila says:

      Dear Mr. P,
      Your post comes across as though you have either misunderstood in a very big way, or are entirely ignorant.

      Seideman is aware that she has Epilepsy – a condition which a “slight adjustment of her meds” will not fix. She does not need to be “referred to a physician,” as she has been diagnosed for many years. She has struggles every day, even though they aren’t always grand mal.

      Channing is an outstanding student who has had seizures in class in the past and such has never been a problem. See proof of that below.
      http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20110930/LETTER/110929821/1020&ParentProfile=1061

      No matter how you look at this, Channing was wronged. Good for her for fighting for students of the future to never have to go through what she’s been through.

      Yours,
      Leila

  22. Mike says:

    Let’s say she wants to go to truck driving school, is she allowed to have a seizure behind the wheel of a tractor-trailer? She can’t be an EMT if she is going to have a seizure when she needs to help somebody, just like a person who is blind or in a wheelchair cannot be an EMT. She’s just not a right FIT for the job, she should do something else.

    1. Mom says:

      Again, no one said she’s actually planning to become an EMT. I took all kinds of courses in college that had nothing to do with my career. She wants to take this course, and she has every right to.

  23. echinacea says:

    she should have just blamed the seizure on GEORGE W. BUSH and the school would have applauded and sang “for she’s a jolly good fellow”

  24. Chuck says:

    Epilepsy can be cured with homeopathic treatment.

    1. Rawego says:

      how can this be done? please email me at rawego@hotmail.com. my son has seizures.

      1. howelse says:

        by giving lots and lots of money to some weird looking chick in a mumu.

      2. Kaz says:

        Please research the ketogenic diet. Especially with younger children, drastic changes in diet can potentially cure their epilepsy. Medication will never cure it… in fact, research what epilepsy medication can do to a human brain. There’s a really good movie called ‘First Do No Harm’ that you can also watch – but that’s more for an insider look and is more ’emotionally informative’. Nonetheless, I encourage you not to listen to those that will reject this treatment as ‘voodoo’ and intentionally keep themselves ignorant because they ‘feel’ this can’t possible be medicine. The Mayo Clinic is doing a great bit of research into this as well. Here’s a basic summary: http://www.epilepsy.com/epilepsy/treatment_Ketogenic_diet

    2. Jennifer says:

      No, it cannot. Don’t give people false hope. Some homeopathic treatments can alleviate symptoms, but they do not “cure” epilepsy.

  25. ffirth says:

    Love how so many assume the instructor was a liberal just because it was at a college. A lot of people teach part time at colleges. And no, I’m not a liberal. Not a conservative either. Like most people, there are some issues I’m more conservative about, some that I’m more liberal about.

  26. p. Smith says:

    there is no such thing as the constitution anymore!

  27. Psmith says:

    BTW, you what would you do if you KNEW PROFS RIGGED A GRADE TO PUNISH A STUDENT? HInt: It happened in COlorado!

    1. Willey says:

      Your grades reflect an academic form of reward or punishment and is akin too culling the heard. Poor grades result from the poor performance of the student.

  28. Mack says:

    The story is on the ‘net, so it must be true.

    1. liesliesliesyeah says:

      The story is in the local Denver paper and carried on their website. And if the internet is all lies, guess what you are?

  29. Rawego says:

    may the school officials who pressured her to drop this class have a seizure from which they never recover. oh, and have a nice day :))

  30. notasocialist says:

    i’m sure they care about all their students… liars

  31. UCS says:

    I see, so every other student in her class should risk not learning important, life saving lessons because this woman feels she has the right to take the class.

    Something to keep in mind if she wins, never again believe that an EMT knows what they’re doing. After all someone in their class might have had the RIGHT to interrupt their learning process.

    1. Mom says:

      As if the opportunity for these students to get a little real-life experience means that they will be incompetent. Give it a rest.

    2. Truth Detector says:

      “Something to keep in mind if she wins, never again believe that an EMT knows what they’re doing.” ~ UCS

      Something to keep in mind if the college wins, never again believe than an EMT knows anything at all about epilepsy or how to treat epileptics.

      Keep your world flat, academicians, as the universe orbits it…

  32. jo says:

    question: was the seizure caused by the mandated “green” light bulbs from hell that emit a strobe effect which triggers seizures in some? just curious…

  33. Markllar says:

    Perhaps you will get enough money to then go to a real university.

  34. TroyG says:

    Just one more example of how people are cruel to one another.
    Frankly, I hate lawsuits, but I hope this young woman causes the school some pain and suffering (writing a huge check)

  35. Truth Detector says:

    Channing, you’re too good for these snooty, stuck-up, ivory-tower, low-life academicians.

    It’s so true that those who can’t, teach.

    You wouldn’t have learned much in that course, anyway. And what you would have ‘learned’ would have been wrong. You’ve learned a much more valuable lesson about professorial liberals who like to refer to themselves as progressives.

    Perhaps they would have you straight-jacketed and committed rather than improving yourself?

    Shame on them. Shame on them all!

  36. Brent says:

    She will be allowed to work having seizures. I worked as a firefighter EMT and then later on a MICU unit. Lots of EMS workers have medical problems that could temp. disable them but that is why they work in teams. My wife is a paramedic and turned her ankle twice on duty and had a kidney stone attack. All three took her out temp but she was never fired and forbidden to work again in EMS. Be glad there are people willing to work in a very stressfull, exhausting and usually low paying job. And finding the right med to control seizures is a journey, give her a break and let her be a productive citizen.

    1. Jan says:

      I wish her the bet but my husband had an epileptic seizure at work and they lfired him because it “disrupted” and scared the other employees. (and it was not a convulsive or violent seizure) They sent him to the hospital and before the ambulance took him he was fine but they took him anyway and at the ER the Doctor turned around and released him to go back to work–Still he was fired

      I contacted the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to file a complaint and they informed me that the employer had every right to “protect” their other employees! So much for the Disability Act

  37. RJ OGuillory says:

    As a former international instructor for US DoD,…I think the school missed a great opportunity for in-house training? Can you imagine the benefit to the rest of the class to have a “live” EMT response in the class room every month or so…? Hell, I’d be giving her extra credit if she could just fire off two seizures a semester,…! What a remarkable, real-life example of professional conduct, handling stress,….working under pressure,…!

    In addition to the legal stupidity this decision placed the school, I’d fire whomever made the decision juts based on the lost educational opportunity…

    Regards,

    RJ O’Guillory
    Author-
    Webster Groves-The Life of an Insane Family

    p.s.- I was diagnosed as genetically epileptic at the age of 49,…drove off a 200 foot cliff at 70mph,…don’t recall any of it,….so even though I’m kind of joking about using the young lady as a”prop”,….I certainly would not have dismissed her or the opportunity…

  38. qwalker says:

    Several failures: The College does not know the law. The personnel of the College that denied the enrollment show a lack of compassion. There is no report of any interest/attempt by the College to adapt to Ms. Seideman. And, are fellow students at the College so ignorant and uncompassionate that they have not gone forward to the administration to call it on moral failure? If so, what kind of people come out of high schools now? What kind of people at the College presume to educate [lead out of ignorance, educare] students?

    1. snapper says:

      I hope she isn’t on call at the fire station should I need an EMT –

      1. Matt says:

        yeah because bigots like yourself do not deserve to be saved.

  39. Bill says:

    Shannon,

    I have epilepsy and I suggest you get a really good lawyer and sue the hell out of them.

  40. O.C. says:

    This past year in my high school class, I had a young person who was prone to seizures. My 16 year old students became experts at moving the desks, and placing the kid on their side in case of vomiting.
    It was really not a big deal, and once they were done, we carried on with class. ( Of course the nurse came and got the student.)

  41. roze says:

    That’s great! This can happen yet pretty soon people will be FORCED to put up with transvestites in the armed forces. This world is ass-backwards.

  42. Jan says:

    The teacher should be fired. Next.

  43. rationalist says:

    She’s prohibited from being a pilot also. Sue the FAA ?

  44. qwalker says:

    They must offer meager gray rations to rationalists. The classroom, unlike air operation, poses no safety risk to the teacher or classmates.

    1. rationalist says:

      It poses a risk if she’s out on an emergency call and goes into a seizure – then another EMT has to step in and take care of her, also…
      As for gray matter rations, look who’s talking – you just succeeded in making Dumb & Dumber look like Einstein & Edison.

  45. Snapper says:

    I’m thinking that someone with uncontrolled epileptic seizures should not be trained as an EMT.

  46. shirin says:

    This is absolutely a violation of the Americans with disagilities act. I am an occupational physician. I see plenty of people with a history of seizures. If they are seizure free x 1 year they can get their drivers license back. A history of seizures does not disqualify you from working as a med tech, EMT, nurse, physician, engineer, rocket scientist, whatever. Many people have controlled seizures and work these jobs effectively. The teacher should have simply lowered the kid gently to the floor, discouraged bystanders from shoving anything into her mouth, and – if she had declared her disability and this was a known, condition that did not extend for more than a few minutes – waited for her to recover. If the teacher didn’t know about the condition, then calling 911 would have been appropriate. Either way, having her drop the course was WAY WAY WAY inappropriate.

  47. Sal says:

    If she had overdosed on a recreational drug, the professor would not have
    acted in the same manner. Another example of the politically correct professorial class taking our educational system and the country down the path to ruin.

  48. Mike says:

    I actually had such an incident happen when I was in college. Right in the middle of a Biology class final exam a fellow student had a sudden grand mal seizure. If I remember correctly, the teacher made sure he had a pencil to put across the teath so that the student would not swallow his tongue. He then isntructed the rest of the class to go into an empty nearby classroom and finish the test. It turned out that the student had been up all night studying for the test and had not taken his medicine. The student was allowed to complete the test when he recovered and was not held responsible in any way. None of the other students thought it was “distracting”, especially since it was the only time it happened while he was at college. I have been working for over thirty years with a person who has epileptisy and he has never had a seizure at work. Seizures are rare if medication is taken as directed.

    1. Mike says:

      Oops! That should be “teeth” and ‘epilepsy”. It has been a long day.

    2. Debby Kay says:

      OMG, PLEASE tell me you know that you should NEVER EVER put anything in someone’s mouth if they are having a grand mal seizure… it is impossible to swallow your tongue. PLEASE learn about first aid for a grand mal seizure here:
      http://www.epilepsychicago.org/epilepsy-facts/first-aid/

  49. Omaha Bob says:

    If she just wants to take the class then these people are really wrong for removing her. Whether they did or not is not known, because you only have her side of the story. People in a post-seizure state are generally a bit confused. I totally support her taking the class. She could be a wonderful assist to have during an emergency. To have her routinely be the one doing a critical procedure on somebody whose life may depend on it is a completely different proposition. This is why people in critical jobs have health screenings.

  50. TomL says:

    I just Googled Channing Seideman. This whole episode has hit the internet big time. If I was hiring people today one of the things I would do is Google the persons name. People should be aware of this effect. She has branded herself as a law suit prone person. As an employer I would never expose myself to this risk. She would have been much wiser to quietly withdraw from the class.

    1. Crew Jobs says:

      No she has identified herself as a righteous person who believes in the law and doing what is right. I would be happy to have her at my company as should anyone who values ethics and fair play. Let my competitors be stuck with craven anonymous backstabbers who think like you do.

  51. Bob says:

    Just a point of clarification. Anyone can have seizures at any time, and for a multitude of reasons or no reason at all. Poor diet, low blood sugar, bad interaction with a medication, and sleep deprivation can cause an otherwise healthy person to have a seizure. Those are examples of provoked seizures. Epilepsy is, specially, a condition in which a person has multiple unprovoked seizures. For some people it’s a life-long condition, and for some it’s not.

    We’re limited on facts in this case. But since doctors won’t diagnose epilepsy unless there’s a history of two or more seizures, this was unlikely to be her first. Is she taking medications and are her seizures generally well controlled? Some people with epilepsy have several seizures per day even with medication. And in that case, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say her seizures are disruptive to the class. It really boils down to how bad her epilepsy is.

    There have been a lot of comments about whether or not someone with epilepsy should be allowed to be an EMT. But no matter what your opinion may be, it is not the college’s choice; it’s a decision that belongs to the board issuing the EMT license. The ADA requires the school to provide reasonable accommodations for people with disabilities. It is not a blanket mandate to accommodate every situation. For a person with severe epilepsy, perhaps a private tutor would be more practical?

    And lastly, I am so sick of people who play on fear. Here’s an idea, let’s take everyone who isn’t “perfect” and send them off to camps. Oh wait, Germany tried that already and it was a disaster. You want to know what happens when an epileptic has a seizure while flying? It’s the same thing that would happen to you when you’re driving on the freeway hopped on coffee and prescription drugs: probably nothing but in the worst case you’ll crash.

    Here’s a news flash for you… the world isn’t safe. Rational people balance risk with gain. So in the case of an epileptic, it depends on how well controlled the seizures are. For someone with good control, it makes sense to allow them to fly because there’s low risk of incident and a high gain of productivity. This is the same issue with the TSA and people wanting to be protected by the government. Sacrificing freedoms to more stringent security measures is only practical when those security measures are highly effective. When the TSA routinely fails audits despite the increased security, we’re better off with less security.

  52. Robbob says:

    Sorry, but this lady is not qualified to be in this field of study. EMTs are continually called out to perform life or death treatment. Someone that has experienced gand mal seizures has no business being an EMT. You can not make a reasonable accomodation for this under the ADA.

  53. Mark says:

    “Sorry, but this lady is not qualified to be in this field of study. EMTs are continually called out to perform life or death treatment. Someone that has experienced gand mal seizures has no business being an EMT. You can not make a reasonable accomodation for this under the ADA.”

    Just because she was taking an EMT class doesn’t mean that was going to be her career. I took an EMT class as an elective while I was gettiing my Criminal Justice degree.

    1. Cynthia Hillard says:

      Why is she not qualified to study this??? No where did I read she was an EMT or planned to be. Why do you find the idea of her being k nowledgeable in a course of study the she may not go into. What is the horror of her knowing how to help others. So I guess I am asking ..if you were injured then you would not want any help from her? correct

  54. Steve M. says:

    I don’t know of any epileptic EMT’s or paramedics. What I do know is that there is a tremendous legal liability of an employer knows about it and needs to make certain accomodations if it is possible. So the question is, whether she would be able to work as an EMT.

    Is the ADA absoliute? No. There was a case, where a blind person said that he wanted a job frying donuts and needed to be accomadated. Due to the nature of the job, the court-claim was DENIED.

    The problem is situational stress can bring on a seizure.. The question arises whether a person can do the job, despite their disability and the answer in this case is a (regrettable) no.

    I also believe there is more to this story.

  55. David S says:

    She still has the right to take the class and gain the knowledge that will probably make her more money than some of the dim wits making comments on here. This is clearly a violation of the ADA law. For any one out there knocking the ADA law. Be careful not to break your neck skiing down an Aspen mountain you might then find out how important the law is to many people.

  56. John McGraw says:

    Good example of just how stupid the people supposedly teaching our youth really are. What an incompetent amd intolerant idiot.

  57. Ron De Velde says:

    If she wants to take the class then she should. EMT basic is typically 4 credits. Many people take the class for their resume.
    If she wanted to join the rescue squad I could not accept the liability. If she had a seizure during cpr, c-spine or stroke call it might leave the patient dead or paralyzed, not to mention if she was driving the rig during an episode. It would be unethical to put her, her partners & her patients in that position.
    If a staff member told her to drop the class that person should be fired.

  58. Judy Martin says:

    I suggest those making uniformed statelements regarding epilepsy actually do some research. I think you may be surprised at what you learn. I suspect those exposing their ignorance hve never had someone they love suffer from this malady. Epileptics can lead normal productive lives. Some of the negative examples given here are ridiculous. Ever hear of an aura? Most know it is cioming before it does.

    1. Dumpbin says:

      Learn…impossible for Drudge Report right wing trolls I’m afraid. No capacity.

  59. Tom Vodak says:

    Maybe the college should view the Magna online seminar on how colleges and university’s should handle students who suffer from chronic illness http://www.magnapubs.com/catalog/chronic-illness-five-things-to-know-five-things-to-do/

  60. Defendingliberalsjustthisonce says:

    I had to laugh at the ‘liberal college professors’ slap. This is not even a community college, it is more like one of those diploma mills you see advertised on TV. Blasting that they must be liberals (in this instance anyway) is silly. This is pure capitalism, ‘non-profit’ or not.

    1. spectrawatt says:

      The assumption was made due to a liberal response from the so called teacher.

    2. Marla says:

      So, what does your comment have to do with the young woman not being able to return to class? Profit or not (they all are, don’t you listen to John Stossel?) why can’t she return?

    3. skiguy says:

      This is a community college based in Glenwood sprngs. Get your facts straight before you open your mouth.

  61. Marla says:

    So, if and or when an associate of the school has a heart attack, a stroke, faints form low blood sugar, etc.. I can only hope that they will not only return to the school, but their pay and pension is taken away.

  62. Jim says:

    there are LOTS of reasons one would need EMT training that are job related, but not necessarily to work on an ambulance.

    Some healthcare jobs require EMT training.

    some care provider positions require EMT training.

    I worked ambulance with a diabetic, and there never was an issue when he got ‘low’, no patient ever suffered or had any consequence from it.

    Prior to a seizure you get peripheral indicators, she KNEW she was going to have a seizure – and you have a few seconds to deal with it before it becomes full blown. Unlike the way TV portrays it, you dont just suddenly drop to the ground and drool.

    they are going to lose this lawsuit, and they SHOULD. Liberal controlled educational institutions like to prattle at length on how “compassionate” they are, but when it comes down to it, they’re simply elitists who could care less about real compassion and accomodation, because accomodation is what they believe OTHER people should have to do – to accomdate them.

  63. bob lucas says:

    Like Obama blaming evryone else…

  64. dwlayman says:

    I have held my now grown son when he was having grand mal seizures. You can understand why ancient peoples thought it was a sign of demon possession, but other than how it appears, and how the onlookers emotionally react…SO WHAT.

    This was, as multiple commenters have already pointed out, an EMT class. The teacher should have turned it into a learning opportunity for the students.

  65. JustMe says:

    OK SpongeBob, you have your brain surgery with the epileptic and I’ll stick with Dr. Omaha Bob. As for the class, I would have given her a second chance, but as the father of a seizure patient, I see no reason why the education of an entire class needs to be sacrificed for one person. Like it or not, we aren’t all equal and all the legislation and warm feelings in the world won’t change that.

  66. James Benoit says:

    This young lady has a GREAT CASE. Liberal college professors and administrators are such HYPOCRITES, epilectic episodes are generally sporadic in occurrace, right? They asking here to drop because she MIGHT has another pisode – in class? Ridiculous.

    Sue ’em and win young lady, take ’em to the cleaners.

  67. Jasonn says:

    Sounds to me like a teaching opportunity moment as well as a blatant ADA violation. Shame on those school administrators.

  68. Rose Marie says:

    The professor could have considered this a learning experience for the class. This was an emergency in an emergency type class. Question, she was dropped out of the class, how about the program? She should win!

  69. Randolph Phillips says:

    I’m stunned bysuch a politically correct institution being so ignorant. Well, maybe not. They should fire some people, though, for the way they treated this student.

    Many years ago, when I was in the first grade, a fellow student, a girl named Nancy was epileptic, and sometimes had gran mals. We were taught by our teachers that Nancy sometimes collapsed, and we quickly learned to take these infrequent events in stride. We werern’t scared, and Nancy was never made to feel exceptional. It was something which just happened to her sometimes, and the only danger was that she might bite her tongue or perhaps fall and hit someting. Everyone in that school grew up understanding epilepsy for what it was, and were comfortable about it.

    How wise our elementary school teadhers were. How stupid the staff at this college must be.

  70. Dumpbin says:

    I’ve got to stop reading these discussion boards on news stories. They are convincing me that the average intelligence level of Americans is somewhere around drooling idiot.

  71. trasher says:

    so every person with seizures should go on disability that want work like to see govt do that

  72. Troy Taylor says:

    I usually don’t read the comments section and now see why. I see alot of comments without knowing the whole story. This sound like an inappropriate removal from class, but then again I don’t know the whole story. Comments made about her abilities; however, are just plain wrong. For example I don’t believe for a second that Omaha Bob is really a surgeon, and if you are, I am sure glad you did not go into medicine (just stick with the mindless slicing and dicing). Everyone has different types and severity of seizures. Was she off meds temp? Is this the first in 1-2 years? Did she have an aura before? Was she taking a new med or doing something temp. that lowered her seizure threshold.? Some people get there seizures under great control and can continue to drive and retain normal activities. Some people have aura’s that can give them a “heads up” on an impending seizure. This could have been a very rare event for her. Just glad to see her trying to be a productive member of society and not sitting home drawing a check. Only she and her Dr really know if this is the right path for her.

  73. skiguy says:

    I have actually known this young lady since she was in elementary school. Believe me, her epilepsy has never stopped her from competing on her horse, freestyle skiing (and coaching) and already having an EMT certification. Believe me, you would want someone with her level head around if you needed and EMT. All these comments are based on supposition and generalizations. Reality is diffeernt.

  74. Fed up says:

    A school for medicine and they think this is distracting. Perhaps any patient they are working with or on having a seizure will be told to leave and go elsewhere because they are distracting. The whole thing in and of itself was a learning situation for the students but the school chooses to get rid of her. Well perhaps it is not run or taught by properly trained people.

  75. Tired of all the PC says:

    How many of you people know anyone that has had a seizure? I doubt very many. I for one have seizures but they are controlled by medicine. I was on a fire department for 17 years and never had any issues so I don’t think this young lady should not be able to take the class or be an EMT. She has a less likely chance of causing issues than all you drunks that are on the road everyday causing accidents that need someone like this young lady.

  76. bookworm says:

    I don’t know about everyone else here, but if I had a serious medical emergency and had to rely on EMTs to save my life, I wouldn’t want one to drop on the floor and start having a seizure instead.

  77. Mr. Darwin's Helper says:

    I am a college biology teacher (retired) and I had a young man who was an epileptic in my class of 130 pre-meds & pre-dents. He had informed me at the beginning of the course of his condition, and sure enough, during a two-hour exam had an attack that was quite disconcerting to the exam-takers. I arranged quickly and quietly for a student sitting nearby who was an EMT to accompany him to his dorm, made a brief explanatory announcement to the perplexed class members, and told them to go on with their exam. On their way out of the room, I told the epileptic lad and his EMT helper that they could complete their exam in my office the next day.
    The sad ending to this story is that the institution, several months later gave him a work-study job vauuming the surface of the gym swimming pool, and he had a seizure, fell into the pool and drowned. I couldn’t believe that he had been allowed to do this work unaccompanied in some way. He was a very nice young man.

  78. A Reiner says:

    Regardless of the Fact that the student has Epilepsy doesn’t mean she shouldnt be allowed to complete her EMT course. As an EMT for the FDNY I am appauled by this College forcing her not to become an EMT. Even if she has that condition she should be still allowed to have any other job in EMS such as a dispatcher. But even if she did work in the field and had a seizure, that’s why you have back up units to treat both the patient and this particular individual. If EMT’s cant deal with the stress of their own having a medical condition and dealing with it, then they shouldn’t have become EMT’s in the first place.

  79. annoyed with HSE says:

    thank you! thank you! OK so I’m 14 and go to Hamilton Southeastern Junior High School in Fishers, IN and because I’m having a few more seizures than I should be having they want to put me on home bound. Keep in mind that in all my seizures I’m conscious and I understand what is going on. But they are saying that during my really big ones that I am hurting other people and i know for a fact that yes it may be a little distracting but ya know what during a big one i have NEVER hurt any one accept myself during the big one only during the small spasm like ones (Myoclonic) and really the school does not care if i hurt myself as long as i don’t hurt any one else. correct me if I’m wrong but is this or is this not wrong and discriminating?

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