Reckless Driving Caught On Camera By Denver-Area Cyclist

EVERGREEN, Colo. (CBS4) – A Jefferson County woman could face jail time after she and her adult son were charged in a road rage incident caught on camera by the alleged victim, a bicycle rider.

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Cyclist Paul Gallas talks with CBS4's Paul Day. (credit: CBS)

“I was angry,” explains Paul Gallas, the Denver area cyclist.

He was riding west on Highway 74 from Morrison to Evergreen last winter claiming to be as far to the right as possible.

Gallas was operating two video cameras mounted on his bike. One camera recorded a forward view. The second camera recorded a rear view.

What you see first is several passing cars giving Gallas a wide clearance. Then a gray car appears and brushes close to the cyclist.

“It was within a foot or so,” claims Gallas.

Words are shouted at the cyclist by a front seat passenger who’s seen leaning out the window.

CBS4 tracked down the man who freely admits to being the passenger in the gray car.

“Just messing around, having fun,” says Erick Witaschek.

Witaschek and his mother Cheryl were charged by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office following the incident.

Gallas shared his video with law enforcement.

After reviewing the pictures, he realized he’d recorded a readable license plate.

Erick, the adult son, faces a charge of disorderly conduct. But his mother has been charged with a more serious charge of reckless driving.

If convicted she could face a maximum penalty of $300 fine and or 90 days in jail, plus 8 points on her Colorado driver’s license, according to the Jefferson County District Attorney’s Office.

“I know I’m going to request a jury trial because I never intended putting any fear in this man,” says Cheryl Witaschek.

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An image from Paul Gallas' camera that apparently shows Erick Witaschek (credit: CBS)

Gallas tells a different story. He claims his video documents an unprovoked road rage incident directed at him.

“The driver decided to squeeze me as close as possible and intimidate me with her vehicle, while the passenger shouted some obscenity at me.”

CBS4 asked Erick about the apparent profanity he appears to be shouting at the cyclist in the video.

“I haven’t seen the video, I don’t remember exactly what I said,” he responds.

If you listen closely to the video you can hear the cyclist shout out “Gotcha on camera!” right after the incident.

So was Gallas rolling video in a deliberate attempt to catch somebody being a jerk?

“Absolutely not,” he tells CBS4.

Instead, he says he was simply making a training video which could be played back on a monitor for someone riding a stationary bike.

But this recorded confrontation shows footage collected for one purpose can quickly become incriminating evidence.

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Erick Witaschek and Cheryl Witaschek talk with CBS4's Paul Day. (credit: CBS)

“Letting people know they may be caught on video might just change the way people behave on the road,” says Gallas.

The car driver insists she did nothing wrong.

“Do I have to get a car cam to defend myself?” she asks.

But convincing the jury — after they’ve been shown the video — may be an uphill battle.

Web Extra

David Newcomer, Executive Director of Team Evergreen Bicycle Club, talks more about the friction between cyclists and vehicle drivers on Colorado roads in an interview with Paul Day below.

Comments

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  1. Gary says:

    Ok. Then we drivers need to have a way to protect ourselves from the arrogant and militant cyclists that REFUSE to share the road! It is time for cylcists to carry liability insurance, have an operators license and to have the bicycle licensed by the state. It would even create more revenue!
    We already spend a fortune giving cyclists everything they want at the expense of the taxpayers and motorists. It is time to even things up

    1. P.Kelley says:

      I fully agree with this comment!!!

      1. David says:

        We pay taxes to and have as much right to be on the road as you.

      2. SR says:

        David, cyclists pay the same taxes as everyone else, but they don’t pay licensing tax or auto tax or any other tax that goes directly towards upkeep of the roads we’re riding on. I agree that bikes should be licensed and tagged. I think we’d have far less cycle-morons ticking people off for the rest of us cyclists. An added bonus would be that it would be easier to identify stolen bikes.

      3. ImaHippyBurning says:

        @David,
        You do not have the right to not allow cars or trucks to have the right of way. As far as I am concerned you get in my way and refuse to move, then you can kiss your sissy little spandex covered arse goodbye!

      4. steamboat says:

        Gary – I agree !

        David – no one is disputing your right to travel the roads. I would say the vast majority of drivers give a wide birth to bikes. This appears to be an unfortunate exception, although I love the way the main stream media depicts this as big news, and ignores the countless time it goes the other way. That said, I live in Steamboat Springs, which claims to be a “bike friendly” town. I see bicyclers riding two, three, and four abreast all the time on our narrow county roads. From my experience, the majority of the time the bicyclers aren’t “sharing” the road and obeying traffic laws (i.e. running stop signs, red lights, failing to signal, etc.). The fact is that roads were originally designed for motor vehicles (i.e. transport for business and by citizens to and from work and to obtain other necessities), not for recreation. That is the obvious priority, so get used to it.

    2. Jon says:

      The Witaschek’s should be convicted to the full extent of the law as their blatant behavior is inexcusable. Additionally the Witaschek’s should take ownership and responsibility to their actions, apologize for their behavior and man up to the State of Colorado’s ruling in their case. Public roads are a privilege for both bicyclists and motor vehicles, and thus everyone is responsible for acting safely.
      Obviously the taxpayers pay more for motor vehicles then bicycles on any road while the bicyclists pay the largest price.

    3. Glenn D. says:

      Protect? Protect you from what? Besides, many bicyclist own cars, and pay for insurance and taxes already. I do, two cars, one house and two bicycles. I pay my share of taxes. I just ask you not to kill me on the road.

      1. Tommy Crist says:

        BS I pay 60 bucks a year to COLO and UTAH to ride my ATV. You clowns pay NOTHING. and you get the best trails.

      2. Jake Jones says:

        Hmm According to Tommy you shouldn’t be allowed to walk on sidewalks if you don’t pay for them either. So If im in Boulder and I live in Lakewood, I don’t actually contribute anything to the upkeep of the Boulder sidewalks so i should pay a fee to use them.
        For a minute Tommy you had me thinking all ATV riders were imbeciles. Say it isnt so…

    4. Me says:

      I think I am going to get two cameras mounted (and dismounted) on my bike. They are so cheap nowadays. This way, if something happens, there’s the proof. If nothing happens, video erased and ready for next ride. What a great idea!

    5. jeff says:

      totaly correct

    6. Trainwreck says:

      Couldn’t agree more, live in Albany NY see too many bicyclists that are just as careless as drivers…it goes both ways.

      1. Michael says:

        I accidentally hit ‘report comment when clicking on reply’. My comment is, if a bicyclist is careless or breaking a law, then ticket them. But usually, they break fewer laws than when they drive their cars. Everyone speeds; occasionally speeds through a yellow instead of slowing down to stop; rolls a red… a bicyclist is declared a law breaker when they take command of a lane – but really, many drivers don’t understand that a cyclist is supposed to take control of a lane in certain situations… intersections, lane changing, conditions too narrow for a car to occupy with the bicycle… and because of a motorist’s lack of patience, is then declared a hazard to the road. It only takes a few seconds out of your day… please just tolerate that someone is improving their fitness and not being a burden on the medicare system.

    7. ND Girl says:

      So you are saying what this driver did is okay because it was a cyclist? Very stupid comment!

    8. billdsd says:

      Bicyclists are taxpayers.

      Sharing the road means that everyone gets to use it. It does not mean that they have to stay out of your way because you think that you’re entitled to not have to change lanes.

    9. Pat Terry says:

      3000 lbs of car will kill a person. would you take the same attitude if it was your family on a bike? Would you be so upset about them running a stop sign or two that you would chance killing them? Maybe the inconvenience of having to turn the wheel a little to the left and let off the accelerator is too much, your right just kill the sons a bit##es.

    10. Kal says:

      We pay part of those taxes dumbs%^&. In fact, if you look at the mean income of cyclists vs. non-cyclist, we pay more than most fat a##@## like you.

    11. Ryan says:

      Liability insurance for what? Are you worried that a 200-lb. cyclist is going to take you out and kill you in your two-ton car? And you know, the reason driver’s licenses are required is because of the damage that can be done with an improperly operated automobile in traffic, and the death that can result of it. That hardly applies to bicycles, which can’t really hurt anybody, and we all learn to ride when we’re 5 years old.

      And what’s this fortune you speak of? Bicycle facilities in this state are still very little. And those taxes you speak of? We pay ’em, too. Fuel taxes only go towards interstates and federal highways, you know, but not at all towards state and county highways, surface streets, etc. Those roads are paid for from the general fund, largely funded by property and sales taxes, which we all pay. Besides that, most of us cyclists are also motorists, so we do pay the fuel taxes, too. Grow up.

      1. Phil says:

        Let me tell you about the 200lb cyclist riding around Denver with no brakes on his bike to save weight who also doesn’t stop for intersections. Well one day he was flying through a red light while my brother was driving through. He smashed into the side of my brothers car. He broke both side windows, severely dented and scratched both doors. Dented the roof and scratched it as well. The cyclist spent a couple months in the hospital I believe but my brothers car was also totaled. It was an older car yea but it was a great car and it is gone now. So what exactly is your argument? That 200lbs is not dangerous? Imagine if he hit a motorcyclist they both wind up laying in the road hoping cars behind them can stop.

      2. WagTheDog says:

        $hit happens, Phil. If you want to live in a free society, you must accept the dangers. If you want total protection, I suggest you try Cuba – they don’t allow much of anything besides walking.

    12. AwesomeCyclist says:

      [Citation needed]

      As a cyclist I pay for the roads that you use, and for repairs done by your heavy vehicles. How exactly do you subsidize me?

    13. Driver AND Cyclist says:

      People should have to get running shoes registered and get plates on them. I’m tired of all these runners thinking they rule the sidewalk! They’re so reckless when they run! They could easily bump into me! The sidewalk belongs to WALKERS which is why it’s called a sideWALK. If runners were meant to be on sidewalks it would be called a sidewalkorrun. REQUIRE REGISTRATION FOR RUNNING SHOES AND TAX RUNNERS.

      Seriously though, what a short-sighted comment. Everyone pays taxes, including bicyclists. Insurance? Do you really think a road bike is capable of causing that much damage? Requiring bicycle licenses and enforcing laws related to them would be a huge waste of time and money. It would bring in money, but it would cost way more to enforce it, and police would be spending too much time chasing cyclists without plates instead of preventing more serious crimes.

      1. Phil says:

        Let me tell you about the 200lb cyclist riding around Denver with no brakes on his bike to save weight who also doesn’t stop for intersections. Well one day he was flying through a red light while my brother was driving through. He smashed into the side of my brothers car. He broke both side windows, severely dented and scratched both doors. Dented the roof and scratched it as well. The cyclist spent a couple months in the hospital I believe but my brothers car was also totaled. It was an older car yea but it was a great car and it is gone now. So what exactly is your argument? That 200lbs is not dangerous? Imagine if he hit a motorcyclist they both wind up laying in the road hoping cars behind them can stop.

    14. Steve says:

      We ride with as much courtesy as possible without risking life and limb; just because you are driving a vehicle that has the capability to accelerate many-fold faster than a bicycle does not give you the right to own the road. As stated below — we pay taxes, too. It’s our right to use the road. If it’s a two-lane road, most cyclists will get out of your way ASAP. If it’s multi-lane, get your big vehicle into a different lane.

      Believe me, we don’t want to be near you. Anywhere near you, in fact. You should look up pictures of cyclists that have crashed as a direct result of cars, maybe you’ll have some sympathy then.

      1. Dan W says:

        You need to change we to “I” because there are several cyclist who are total jerks when they ride. I have been behind 5+ cyclist taking up the lane making me go 20 on a 55 mph road for over 2+ miles. Just yesterday I stopped at a red light and a cyclist came up next to me and hit his brakes and tried to balance on his bike and just about scratched my entire front end up. I see cyclist everyday run red lights , stops signs , even if I am next in line to go through the stop sign. I believe there should be designated roads that cyclist are allowed to go on. As a cyclist myself I use common sense when choosing my routes and never go on a 2 lane hwy with no room for passage. the cyclist in this video had space to his right and could have scooted over a bit, I think he was trying to make something happen. The car passed with plenty of space. As far as someone yelling out the window, it is no different than a person in a club or on the street yelling at someone else. This whole article is a joke.

    15. Travis says:

      You do have a way to protect yourself – it’s called brakes and a steering wheel. Bicycles aren’t motor-vehicles and don’t carry the same environmental upkeep and maintenance that motor-vehicles require. What liability would a cyclist incur in the event that they strike a motor vehicle moving at a higher speed than they?

      This is an absurd comment and one that requires you reflect on your place in society. Just because you have the privilege of being licensed to drive a motor vehicle, doesn’t mean you’re entitled to being ignorant.

    16. MR3 says:

      Refuse to share the road? GO AROUND THEM. Problem solved. Are you on a heart transplant team or helping to land the space shuttle that you’re in such a hurry to get somewhere? Seriously, get over yourself.

    17. Jason says:

      lol militant cyclists ha ha ha ha.. oh my good one! you get shot at a lot by these ppl do you? charging at you on their bicycle head long…lol like mad max out there…lol

  2. P. Kelley says:

    I think that the State of Colorado is in the wrong, it is Illegal for a Motor Vehicle to cross a Double yellow line!. Clearly this road was NOT meant for Bicycles either!. I am an avid Bicyclist in Summit County, I fallow the rules of the road, IE: Stop signs, Stop lights, etc: The State of Colorado has given Bicyclists to much room to roam. I would like to be on this jury.. I would favor the defendant!!!!!!!.

    1. Keith says:

      Colorado law does allow you to cross a yellow line in order to pass a cyclist.

      1. Jamie Wright says:

        Doubt he is really that concerned with the facts. Most of the comments here are of the ‘cyclists have caused me mild irratation on the road, so they got what was coming!’ variery.

      2. Val says:

        I don’t believe it’s “mild” irritation. My child was taken to the hospital by ambulance and I was trying to meet them when they arrived at the emergency room. I was fully prepared to obey all traffic laws, even though I was under duress as it was unknown if my child would live or die. Five miles spent behind a bicyclist doing 15 MPH was NOT fair and NOT minor irritation. If I had missed my child’s last breath because of this bicyclists passive-aggressive behavior would that be minor?

        Bicyclists need to be licensed and the bicycles tagged so we can identify them to the police when these infractions occur.

      3. billdsd says:

        Val, there is no way that you were stuck behind a cyclist for 5 miles. It’s simply not possible. You are a liar.

      4. steamboat says:

        billdsd: You are a troll. Go back to watching Sponge Bob.

    2. Val says:

      I have had bicyclists in front of me in the middle of the lane doing around 15 mph for miles. I can’t pass them because the roadway is too winding, and they refuse to move over. The minimum speed limit is 10 mph less than the posted maximum speed on most roadways in the US. I believe tickets should be given to all those breaking that rule. So if there is a speed limit of 40MPH, ANY moving vehicle should maintain at least 40MPH if they drive on the road. Otherwise, get off on the shoulder! No wonder motorists are frustrated. Try driving 15 MPH for 5 miles in a 50 MPH zone when you have an appointment. Bicyclists can be so rude!

      1. Kay says:

        Sorry, but you’re totally wrong when you claim “The minimum speed limit is 10 mph less than the posted maximum speed on most roadways in the US”. That simply isn’t true.

        Now, in most jurisdictions, there are laws prohibiting speeds so low they’re dangerous or impede the normal and reasonable flow of traffic…but it’s certainly not your ’10 mph less than the posted maximum speed’ claim. In addition, if such a law applies to a particular road, the “too low” speed is based solely on the type of road and the land use.

      2. billdsd says:

        You are a lying again. Unless there is a posted minimum speed limit, there is not automatic minimum speed limit. There is no way you were stuck behind a bicyclist for 5 miles. It would never happen.

      3. Mike says:

        @Val – Do you really want us to believe that you would drive for 5 miles behind someone instead of blasting past them in a few seconds? What in the world was going in the opposing lane that you couldn’t pass this man reasonably? Was there a 5 mile traffic jam? Was it rush hour? Could you not yell out the window that you needed to get to the hospital? Excuse me for my skepticism, but I think you have to be embellishing, or, you really don’t know how to drive very well and don’t have any confidence in your skills. If your son were in real jeopardy, I think you would have gotten around him. In any case, I hope your son came to no real harm.

      4. AwesomeCyclist says:

        @Val: What are you referencing? There is no minimum speed limit unless otherwise posted. A bicyclist going 15 MPH is not breaking the law, and has nothing to do with your personal issues. If you are in a situation where you cannot safely or legally drive, you should not be driving.

        You say “if there is a speed limit of 40MPH, ANY moving vehicle should maintain at least 40 MPH”…. that 40 is a MAXIMUM speed limit. Any vehicle should be below 40 MPH, not above.

    3. Cycling Roberto says:

      Incorrect. A motor vehicle in most states is allowed to pass a slower moving human powered vehicle by crossing the center line if there is no oncoming traffic. In fact many states are adopting a 3 foot law that requires motorists to pass AT LEAST 3 feet from a cyclist. As long as cycling is not prohibited by law on a roadway, legally you must wait until you can safely pass giving ample clearance to the cyclist. Buzzing a cyclist with you son hanging out the window swearing is going to be a tough case to sell.

  3. jim says:

    i see bike riders disobey traffic laws all the time run red lights blow stop signs hold up traffic. dressing like lance armstrong does not make you immune from traffic laws

    1. corvettekaren says:

      not only what you listed, but aren’t tey suposed to ride single file also? when was the last time anyone has seen that? in golden where we live, there is a bike path for the riders- do you think they would use that?? no way !! they ride 4 to 6 wide, hold up the traffic, and for miles you are stuck behind them. they turn around and see that the cars are backed up behind them- but do they move over- no way!!! i have seen them turn around and see the cars and talk between themselves and laugh!! they run the stop signs, run the red lights– and guess wat, it isn’t their fault!! it is the fault of the cars on the roads that have to slam on their brakes so they don’t hit the idiots riding the bikes that don’t pay attention to the laws of the road. just last weekend i saw a rider riding down the middle of the lane, and talkng on a cell phone. another looked like they were texting on the phone, weaving all over the lane.
      we need to get plates on the bikes- so the cars can report their actions.
      if you are going to ride on the roads, then abide by the laws that the cars have to follow on the road. if you think you don’t have to- then get off of the road.
      my opinion of the camera- he did it for the purpose of catching someone whom he thinks came to close to him. i want to be called for jury duty on that one!! i would deffintly go with the people in the car.

      1. elSid says:

        Corvette drivers can always be counted on the obey the speed limit.

      2. MBL says:

        Here’s the thing – you are right about group rides that should have more consideration. If they really are behaving in that manner, place a call to the police. They aren’t going anywhere very fast, the police should get there in time to observe this type of behavior. Or, if it is an often as you suggest, then the police could easily set up a sting. But, I think it probably doesn’t happen as often as you say. As for the texting cyclist – stupid guy. Stop and text, just like a driver should. And your comment on the camera… who cares why it was there? If it is to catch someone like these people, then that’s fine. If they are breaking a personal safety law, then they get what they deserve.. I will say, I think the lady didn’t drive within a foot…. maybe two feet? Still too close. There were no cars coming, and she could have easily moved over another few feet. She should be fined, not jailed though.

      3. Goodgulf says:

        Not generally. There are only 2 states in the US that have a law requiring riders to ride single file. Not sure what particular state you live in, but chances are good it isn’t one of them.

    2. billdsd says:

      Can you explain to me why most motorists exceed the posted maximum speed limit almost every chance they get? Can you explain to me why most motorists roll stop signs when there is no cross traffic? Can you explain to me why motorists think they can break all sorts of laws all the time?

      Bicyclists are no worse than motorists about obeying the rules of the road. The main difference is that they’re a lot less likely to kill or seriously injure someone else than a motorist.

      1. johnson says:

        billdsd, Bryan, Flynn:

        So the fact that some motor vehicles don’y obey the rules of the road, is justification for bicyclists to disobey also ?!? Go back to watching Sponge Bob while the adults talk.

    3. Bryan says:

      jim, I see cars disobey traffic laws all the time, run red lights, blow stop signs, and hold up traffic. An occasional bicycle doing the same is no worse than the many cars that do that.

      1. captain pickles says:

        Bryan, Flynn….. I see Dead People (i.e. stupid cyclists).

    4. Flynn McMahon says:

      I see motor vehicles disobey traffic laws all the time.

  4. B Dameron says:

    all most all people who ride bikes think THEY have no rules. stop at any red light or stop sign and watch. very few will stop or stop at a light just long enought for one car and then go while the light is still red . they ride in the middle of the lane and won’t give the passing cars any room to go around. try driving down from evergreen to morrison on a weekend . we spent millons on bike paths and shut down roads for them and still they want more . and when one gets hurt its the automobiles fault. not theirs for not falling the rules of the road

    1. AwesomeCyclist says:

      Did you watch the video? Which rule of the road was the cyclist breaking?

      You may want to research “confirmation bias”

      1. steamboat says:

        I watched the video. The grey car gave plenty of space. The “one foot” the cyclist says is BS. At worst he’s being vendictive because of the passenger yelling at him. That may have been inappropriate, but is it really a crime ? Maybe in Nazi Germany. The cyclist is guilty of arrogance in riding on a road not designed for safe bicycling. He put himself and other in danger, which as far as I’m concerned should be treated as a crime. The majoity of people posting here seem to agree.

    2. Steve says:

      [citation needed]

    3. Flynn McMahon says:

      Where did you get the statistics? Could it be possible that it is the automobile’s fault if a cyclist gets hurt or maybe you have some more made up statistics that show that it’s never the fault of the automobile?

  5. Jacpb McBuds says:

    Dressing like Lance Armstrong does not make you immune from traffic laws it does make it easier for the ambulance to find your body.

  6. k says:

    bottom line… bike and 1 person=around 200lbs 1 car= 2 tons or more. What don’t they understand? Do they have a death wish? There are bike LANES not bike LINES. Stay in the lanes. And if there are bike paths USE THEM !!! I consistantly see bikers in trafic with brand new bike paths/sidewlks right next to the roads where they are risking theire lives.In the words of my mom “you can ride your bike just be carefull AND WATCH OUT FOR CARS” I guess it is just another case where common sense is not an everyday reality!!

    1. Goodgulf says:

      Cyclist lifespans are, on average 2 years longer than non-cyclists. Out of around 40,000 auto deaths in the US each year only around 600-700 are cyclists, almost all of them are auto drivers and passengers. Driving a car is actually statistically less safe than riding a bike per mile. You are incorrect in your assortment of where the actual danger lies.

      1. Dan W says:

        @Goodgulf
        in order to get accurate data for your claim you would need to use a %. IE cycle deaths/cycle riders >=<driver deaths/motor vehicle drivers. Other wise the numbers are just that numbers, nothing more and carry no weight in regards to evidence of fact.

      2. johnson says:

        Hey genius – You aren’t comparing apples to apples. What are percentage of cyclists versus motorists ? Now go back to watching Sponge Bob.

      3. johnny says:

        So that means cyclists on average spend an extra *2 years* causing the rest of us to waste countless amounts of fuel and time so they can enjoy their hobby?

    2. AwesomeCyclist says:

      Riding on the sidewalk is illegal, and the police actively ticket for this.

  7. Sue says:

    OK Share the road.

    How about share the taxes, share the licenses fees, share the insurance.

    When will bikers have to register their bikes and have licenses plates on their bikes so drivers can report them for breaking the law. If the city really wants to increase it’s revenue they need to enforce the law when it comes to bikers. Running red lights, stop signs, e legal lane change and cutting off drivers.

    Think about it when it the media going to do a story from the drivers point of view. .

    1. Jodie says:

      Most bikers own cars. Watch out for bikers they way you would pedestrians. Bikers are a very small part of the traffic on the road and easily avoided. So you lose a few minutes here and there because you had to slow dwn. big deal.

      1. Trainwreck says:

        Jodie you’re a fool, it is a big deal, people leaving for their commute shouldn’t have to add an extra 45min because some peice of work like you can’t let the cars pass, get on the sidewalk, if you’re a pedestrian THAT IS WHERE YOU BELONG.

      2. Steve says:

        A cyclist is not a pedestrian. Legally speaking, a bicycle is considered a vehicle. Yes, *gasp*, that means you have to let cyclists take their turn at stop signs, too!

        I don’t understand the rage coming from these commenters — 45 minutes? Really? That’s a bit extreme. Maybe you shouldn’t be driving a vehicle if it takes you 45 minutes to move around a guy on a bike that takes up less than 3 ft.

        Nice username, btw. Very fitting.

    2. billdsd says:

      Bicyclists do share the taxes.

      http://cdn.publicinterestnetwork.org/assets/28b773b9f18cdb23da3e48a8d7884854/Do-Roads-Pay-for-Themselves_-wUS.pdf

      What would be the point of insurance? Motorists have to pay insurance because multi-ton vehicles travelling at high speed tend to do a lot of serious damage to whatever they hit. Bicyclists can’t do anything remotely close to the same level of damage.

      How about motorists start obeying the law? That would take a miracle.

    3. AwesomeCyclist says:

      @Sue

      I agree! Right now the taxes are disporportionately levied against cyclists and pedestrians! Let’s let everyone pay their own share and raise taxes on cars (automotive taxes do not currently pay for roads, only highways and interstates). Alternatively, we could just force cars to stay on highways and interstates so they stop hogging the roads the rest of us pay for.

      I’m a bit unclear on the insurance bit though…. How threatened do you feel by my 22 lb. road bike?

    4. Driver AND Cyclist says:

      People should have to get running shoes registered and get plates on them. I’m tired of all these runners thinking they rule the sidewalk! They’re so reckless when they run! They could easily bump into me! The sidewalk belongs to WALKERS which is why it’s called a sideWALK. If runners were meant to be on sidewalks it would be called a sidewalkorrun. REQUIRE REGISTRATION FOR RUNNING SHOES AND TAX RUNNERS.

      Seriously though, what a short-sighted comment. Everyone pays taxes, including bicyclists. Insurance? Do you really think a road bike is capable of causing that much damage? Reckless bicycling is a problem, I agree, but most cyclists actually value their lives and don’t put others in danger. Requiring bicycle licenses and enforcing laws related to them would be a huge waste of time and money. It would bring in money, but it would cost way more to enforce it, and police would be spending too much time chasing cyclists without plates instead of preventing more serious crimes.

  8. Zach says:

    It seems people have confused the issue here. The issue is safety, not money. Just like Americans!…only concerned with who pays more for whatever they are riding in. Ridiculous. If any of you were halfway intelligent you’d see that it would not be fair to tax bicyclists as it leaves no carbon footprint. I agree that any vehicle with wheels ought to follow the same traffic rules as the next (motor or not), however the issue here is safety and a larger/heavier vehicle should always yield to a smaller/lighter one…whether (bicyclists) are following the rules or not. They will be ticketed if caught; I have seen it downtown more than occasionally. The larger issue, though, is respect. This world is not any one person’s and no one person’s destination is more important or urgent than the next. We have to share what we have and live together and that includes the roads we use. Peace.

    1. Val says:

      Why do you correlate taxes with carbon footprint? I would say taxes from bicycles would go to create and maintain the bike paths and bike lanes. Why should automobile drivers pay for bike lanes? They don’t use them.

      The larger issue isn’t respect, it’s the law. Unwritten minimum speed limit on US roadways is 10 MPH under the posted maximum. If you are in a lane, adhere to that law.

      1. Kay says:

        Now you’re just making things up. “Unwritten minimum speed limit” indeed.

        Minimum speed limits are actually pretty uncommon. You usually only see them on freeways…where they *are* posted.

      2. Zach says:

        why wouldn’t i correlate taxes with carbon footprint? oh yeah- ’cause i’m not republican. it’s like taxing alcohol and tabacco: use it if you want, but there’s surcharge. be green, and you’ll find and incentive. and to answer your dumb question…automobile taxes should go to create and maintain bike paths and get more people off the road…duh…to reduce the carbon footprint and, theoretically, to reduce our dependence in foreign oil (or any oil for that matter).

      3. Val says:

        @Zach: Exactly! Pay for it if you use it! I do not use bike paths. Bicyclists do. Let the bicyclists pay for the bike paths. Very simple and follows your own logic.

        Automobile drivers pay for the roadways for motorized vehicles. Automobile drivers pay for the majority of emergency services. Automobile drivers pay for more than just what they use already, let bicyclists foot the bill for their own hobby/mode of transport.

      4. billdsd says:

        Bicyclists pay plenty. The fact is that the roads are heavily subsidized by general fund taxes that everyone pays. Motor vehicles are the most heavily subsidized form of transportation in the U.S.

        http://cdn.publicinterestnetwork.org/assets/28b773b9f18cdb23da3e48a8d7884854/Do-Roads-Pay-for-Themselves_-wUS.pdf

    2. jeff says:

      carbon footprint thats totaly bs if your using the road, you should pay for it like all the other drivers

    3. Denise says:

      I’m with you! These commenters are what is wrong with America today! The driver was acting stupid and because it was a bike rider she was doing it to it is okay!

    4. Flynn McMahon says:

      So if I am driving my very sick child to the hospital my trip is the same as someone driving to the 7-11 for cigarettes? Interesting how lefties are so interested in following the “rules’ when it comes to this issue. However, I do agree that following rules/laws and showing respect probably would sort some of this out. Peas, Zach and may you live long and prosper in a sustainable universe!

  9. JonnyJ says:

    When the Bicyclist learn to respect the vehicles then we will respect them.

    Drive 52 between Hudson and I 25 there is no room for a bike but they still ride it, just stupidity on the bicyclist part.

    1. Flynn McMahon says:

      Go JonnyJ Go burn that rubber!

  10. Evelyn says:

    I see tons of bikes on the road in question and its way toooo narrow for cars and bikes, plus traffic gets backed up as many people will not pass a bike as you have no room to do so safely. You can easily come around a curve trying to avoid the traffic come down hill and hit a biker. I often see them on this road even riding bikes side by side. I won’t let my son ride on the public road in Evergreen as the speeds of cars are 45 and 55 on many of the main highways. Plus the Upper Bear Creek road is too narrow for both to share the road. Its time to think of safety as an issue. As a biker I would not take the risk to be on a road that is so dangerous. But it sounds like the above issue was a direct attack on the biker. I think both cars and bikes have a responsibility.

    1. Flynn McMahon says:

      Many cyclists are foolish. Many car drivers are foolish.

  11. corvettekaren says:

    one road you will not see someone on a bike- is clear creek canyon !!
    it is illegal for a bike to be on the road. it is dangerous for a car, let alone some idiot on a bike.
    a couple of weeks ago some idiot on a bike thought he could ride on 6 thru the tunnels 1,2. and 3 without getting getting caught and to his suprise he got a ticket !! the road is marked that bike are illegal on the roads and in the tunnels. maybe his excuse was that he couldn’t read.
    when i was a kid, you had to register your bike with the fire dept. everyone who rides a bike should have to pay a fee, and have a required plate on their bike. so when they run the stop sign or red light and cause an accident or nearly cause one,then they will be the responsible party. once they are held responsible for their actions, maybe they will change the way they ride. or at least wishful thinking. my husband rides a bike, on the bike paths provided. and even he gets mad at the idiots who think they need to ride 4 and 5 across blocking traffic, run the red lights, run the stop signs. see this on hertidge road every single day. yet there is a bike path for them to use.
    what were to happen if the cars were to drive on the nice wide bike paths that were made for the bikes? we would deffintly get a ticket- so why not ticket them for being on the road when there is a bike path?? then the state and or counties wouldn’t have to worry about a budget anymore- there would be plenty of revenue coming in.

    1. zach says:

      so maybe folks in wheelchairs should have to register that vehicle, get a plate, and pay fees, because it’s probable they’re gonna hit a pedestrian on the sidewalk…and we all know people on foot RULE the sidewalk. COME ON. just because you drive a car, does not mean the road is YOURS. i don’t understand why it is so hard to slow it the hell down for a FRICKING second, to save a life, and yield! what is so impossible about that??? american selfishness at its finest.

      1. Val says:

        Yes, they should be registered. Have you ever been to Arizona or Florida when an elderly person gets in their “hover-round” and travels to the local all you can eat buffet at the strip mall? They travel right down the lane of traffic, waving to honking cars like they are on a Sunday drive.

      2. Flynn McMahon says:

        You’re right Zach; no other country in the world has ever experienced selfish personal habits. Peas and may you always have a small carbon footprint.

      3. steamboat says:

        Zach:

        Face it – the roads were originally designed for motor vehicle transport – for work, business, and necessary citizen travel to work, stores, etc. Recreational bike use is obviously a lower priority. So yes – the roads are OURS because they were designed for US. Many roads are not deisgned to accomodate cyclists, but they arrogantly still go there. That is the problem here.

  12. HPR says:

    Gary, I’m not sure what you’re protecting yourself from. When a 4000 lb. car and a 170 pound cyclist tangle the cyclist always loses. And I’m not sure what fortune is spent on cyclists using public roads that already exist as general transportation arteries. This is an issue of public safety. Cyclists are subject to the same rules as motor vehicles. If they break the rules then they should be ticketed…just as the driver of the vehicle was. The truth will come out in court, and if the Witaschek’s are found guilty they’ll be punished.

    1. elSid says:

      It’s not a public safety issue as long as everyone (including cyclists) obey the rules.

      If there is oncoming traffic, there may not be room for motorists to provide the required-by-law three feet of space. In this case, motorists must wait until they can pass.

      1. jeff says:

        you ride on a narrow road and something bad happens to you then it is YOUR fault and your stupidity is the only thing you have to blame for it

    2. Val says:

      Minimum speed when not posted is 10 MPH less than maximum speed. Do bicyclists sharing our roadways adhere to that law?

      1. Kay says:

        NO SUCH LAW. It’s just wishful thinking on your part.

      2. billdsd says:

        No such law. You’re a liar. In fact, there have been attempts to write tickets for minimum speed law violations against bicyclists in a few states and they always get overturned by the courts because bicyclists have a right to use the road to travel and they cannot be required to travel at a speed higher than they can reasonably maintain.

        Get over it. Moving over to pass a bicyclist safely is easy. You need to let go of your delusions of entitlement.

  13. Quint Palmer says:

    Just like I expected before I even saw their picture- the driver and her son look like typical hillbilly white trash. I hope she gets penalized as much as possible. And once again, people like her never think they’ve done anything wrong.

  14. Mark says:

    I do not condone the actions of the driver and her passanger, Cyclist have to obey the same traffic law as a car or truck.
    As a professional truck driver I,ve seen many Cyclist breaking Traffic laws.

    1. elSid says:

      I have seen many (V)ehicle breaking (T)raffic laws.

    2. billdsd says:

      I see hundreds of motorists breaking laws every single time I go out on the road.

    3. Bryan says:

      There are many times more cars that break traffic laws than bicycles that break traffic laws. Where’s the vitriol for all these cars?

      1. Fella says:

        Bryan: Pure genius. Gee… more cars breaking traffic laws. That wouldn’t be because there’s a few orders of magnitude more of them on the roads… would it.

        elSid & billdsd: LOL – I’ve told you a million times not to exagerate ! I’ve seen thousands of cyclists breaking laws from my living room couch. Hey – Aren’t you fellas missing Sponge Bob ?

  15. Shannon says:

    I was cussed at by a cyclist with my windows down and my kids in the back seat. I don’t want to hurt anyone, so I make sure to move over a complete lane whenever possible. But it was a 2 lane road and the cyclist had a line backing up of at least 8 cars. Another time I watched a cyclist blast through a stop sign on a down hill with a big grin on her face.

    When do the laws apply to cyclists? It’s a tough question to answer just by watching their actions.

    The actions of these two people were wrong. But, there’s an underlying frustration with cyclists that isn’t being addressed.

  16. JimmyJames says:

    When bicyclist start obeying the laws of the road, they will get the respect of other drivers.

    of course no one wants to hurt a rider but to flaunt your ability to control the flow of traffic will quickly have other drivers losing their cool. Remember that a bicycle rider is superior to a mere mortal who is not exercising and saving the planet from global warming!! Your better than thou attitude should probably stay in check when riding…..

  17. idfma says:

    I would like to see the whole incident start to finish–rather than edited for impact to make the mother and son look bad. The boy shouldn’t have yelled out the window–not sure prosecution is called for, but he should have kept his trap shut. As to the car–in the only footage provided in the story, I didn’t see where she was any closer than the other cars–I watched it twice, and it seemed like she had moved to the left to avoid the cyclist, just like the SUV that was in front of her.

    I think the cyclist is upset someone yelled at him, and now he’s over-reacting.

    1. Vindictive says:

      My thoughts exactly.

  18. Tyler says:

    I have been reading these comments since yesterday and I have to say that I was trying to be open & fair to both sides because we really do have to share the road safely, but I keep reading comment after comment where Team Cyclists are referring to people as fat, chubby, obese, etc…What the heck? Not every person that drives a vehicle is overweight and even if they were, you only make their argument stronger by acting like the arrogant jerks that the other side is accusing you of being. Can’t you be respectful at all? Are you not capable of making your arguments without insulting someone in a way that does not relate at all the the problem at hand? If you call them road hogs, or aggressive line crossing jerks, that’s one thing, but to continually refer to them as being fat just shows a level of disdain for others that you deem less worthy than you. So I’ve chosen Team Motorist because I’d rather haul my “fat butt” across town in my vehicle with a smile on my face & kind words for others than to ever be lumped into a group of people so rude & self-righteous.

    1. Bryan says:

      Tyler, you seem to be conveniently overlooking all the bitterness and vitriol coming from “Team Motorist”. Why is that? And why would you pick a “team” based on that rather than the facts of their actions?

      1. Z says:

        Bryan:

        Yawn….zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  19. Biocat says:

    I think it’s time for vehicle drivers to get their own video cameras because there is plenty of evidence, as described by many people commenting here, that a lot of bicyclists are jerks, thinking the roads were made just for them. And I agree that bicycles should have license plates, just like cars, so that we can identify them when they act like idiots. I had a bicyclist break the passenger side mirror off of my car because apparently he didn’t think I gave him enough room even though he had a four foot wide bike path yet he was riding in the traffic lane and I had already moved over half way into the next lane. When I called the police to report him my only description was; male in his 20’s or 30’s, dressed in spandex and riding an expensive looking bicycle! They know they all look alike and can’t be identified and they flaunt their errogant behavior because they know they can get away with it and not be identified. Vehicle drivers are fed up with this behavior. And I’m tired of seeing my tax dollars being used to pay for dozens of police officers to stand guard at every intersection for several miles while these elitist bike riders conduct their road racing events every other month in Boulder where i live.

  20. JC says:

    The video clearly shows that there was no room for a bicyclist to be on that road without causing cars to be in danger-clearly there was a double yellow line. Why should we put our selves as drivers in danger to avoid a cyclist who doesn’t have respect or maybe just doesn’t have enough common sense to figure out that he himself put many lives including his in danger. I think these cyclist’s should start using there brains more than their mouth! Who Do you think you are anyway-more important than anyone else? I don’t think so.

    1. elSid says:

      How is the cyclist in the video putting lives in danger? Please be specific.

      1. billdsd says:

        It’s the classic “pretend to be the victim” propaganda technique. Motorists are not endangered by bicyclists. Getting around a bicyclist is not difficult or dangerous.

      2. Kile says:

        By being on that narrow road he is a hazard. He shouldn’t be riding there. PERIOD.

  21. AnyBodyButObama 2012 says:

    Bicyclists are a danger to traffic in many areas. They have lost their instinct of self preservation because they think the laws can save their life when there isn’t enough room on the road. I have come around a corner several times, at the speed limit, and had to swerve or slam on the brakes because of a cyclist. The day will come when I have the option of creaming a bicycle or slamming head-on into an oncoming vehicle. Motorists may also be involved in a rear end collision when slamming on their brakes to avoid a bicycle that thinks the law makes them impervious to injury or death. They (cyclists) do not pay any attention to the danger of multi ton vehicles traveling at the speed limit and do not have the maneuverability or ability to just stop dead on a dime. They still ride abreast of each other in the lanes of traffic. The law is faulty and gives them a false sense of security, many times at the risk of a cyclists life. It would be like giving fixed wing aircraft the right-of-way over a hot air balloon, which the FAA is smart enough to realize would be a backward rule.
    Do I care what anybody else thinks? Not really, maybe you’re the next cyclist to die because of your arrogance!

    1. elSid says:

      You cared enough to share your rambling, nonsensical babble.

      You only have to choose between running down cyclists or crashing head-on into oncoming traffic if you don’t wait until it is safe to pass.

      1. jeff says:

        elsid you are just the type of jerk bike rider that everyone here is talking about, I hope you get run over, and have to use a handicap van

      2. billdsd says:

        Jeff, what do you do when you’re stuck behind an 18 wheeler going slow? Do you pretend that he’s not supposed to be in the road? BTW, he’ll be a lot harder to pass than a bicyclist. You only get angry because you’re so completely delusional about the bicyclist’s right to be in the road.

      3. johnson says:

        billsdsd & elSid:

        Recess is over. Time to go back to Romper Room.

    2. bob says:

      If you are driving around a corner at a speed where you can’t stop in time for an obstacle in the road then you shouldn’t be driving at that speed. Simple. It’s a speed LIMIT, not a speed TARGET and you need to adjust your speed according to the road conditions. What if it was a car stopped in the road, or a deer, or a child. Would you stop then? Of course you would. But a cyclist – nah, their life doesn’t matter, just cream them. People like you shouldn’t be allowed behing a wheel.

  22. Kevin says:

    Bicyclists shold obey all rules of the road – totally agree. There are cyclists who don’t and they make a bad name for the rest of us who try to be safe and not create a hazard. When a car comes up behind a cyclist, drives close to the cyclist and shouts at the cyclist – that endangers the cyclist. Its scary when it happens because the cyclist knows that if the driver decides (or accidentally) hits the cyclist, the cyclist is probably dead or severely injured. This is an issue of courtesy and respect and both the cyclist and the driver have a responsibility. I’ve had many brushes with cars who come too close. Please, please, understand that most cyclists are not out to create a hazard for cars, we want to be respectful and share the road with cars. We just don’t want to end up in the hospital or worse.

  23. MTD says:

    As a cycist, I agree that we (cyclists), should obey the rules of the road.
    Do you people who post here know the up to date Colorado laws for cyclist? Do you know that you are to allow a three foot passing distance between you and a cyclist? It’s the law, do you break it? As far as a license, etc.- if you require a license for cyclist, then that ten year old kid going to school has to have one too. So… there goes your argument. the fact is that most cycist are better educate, have higher incomes and pay more taxes. These are figures proven out nationwide. So the argument about taxes is mute. If you want to pose taxes on cyclists, then again, that ten year old or the mother who totes a trailer to school should pay more taxes? How about a jogger who runs on the street…. taxes? If it’s an issue of inconvenience, I would like to see more taxes on drivers waiting in traffic for a Rockies, Nuggets or Broncos game. That’s a huge inconvenience for me. This, not to mention all of the various colleges, universities and highschool games. Really inconvenient for me. So, let’s just tax the hell out of everybody until we all just stay home and do nothing. The problem is that most who don’t like cyclists and harass them, do just that. Nothing. Colorado is a state that is well known for outdoor activity. I don’t like skiing, but if that’s your thing…. O.K. I don’t like the traffic on I70, but I understand it’s a bunch of people enjoying life. Let me enjoy mine.

    1. rogabone says:

      You are obviously NOT one of the highly educated ones as the word is spelled moot and not mute…..too funny to pass up on that one!

      1. steamboat says:

        LOL – Very impressive addition to addressing the substance of MTD’s comments. BTW – You missed mentioning a couple of typos too. Hey – aren’t you missing Sponge Bob ?

    2. Val says:

      Argument against taxes is mute? Like it can’t speak? Oh! Wait! You mean “moot” and in a “moot point”. Gotcha.

      You cannot “enjoy” your life when you break the law and put others lives at risk.

  24. kara says:

    Granted, this was not the most dramatic thing that has ever happened to this rider.
    He also had objects thrown at him, had a friend pulled off his bike and beaten, had a friend intentionally hit by a car and killed because “he was driving on a rode that was obviously not meant for bikes”. True story.
    I wish those could have been caught on camera.
    Cyclists break the rules of the road. And its real easy to catch them when they do. But it sucks to be violated by an aggressive action when you’re climbing a hill, and not be able to do a damn thing about it.
    This is one very small attempt to have some consequence to unprovoked meanness that could easily result in injury or death.

  25. DenverVet says:

    I really dont see anything that bad on the video, sorry, not buying this one. Roads were made for cars without bikes in mind. There are plenty of trails and other places they can ride their bikes, they make me nervous when I drive. Can’t predict what they will do. People should not however antagonize bikers, thats just wrong. I think this guys camera thing was not such a good example of what can happen while riding a bike. Does he realized he is risking his life for NO REASON while riding on the same surface as a car? Probably not. Sometimes you just have to use common sense.

  26. Sam says:

    I watched the video twice and it looked like the driver of the gray car crossed the yellow line to get around the bicycle just like the other vehicles did. The passenger shouted something that is beeped out. The bicyclist yelled “Gotcha.” It sure looked and sounded like the bicyclist was trying to get a car in trouble. The road is narrow and there’s no room for a slower moving bicycle to be riding without impeding car traffic. Why in the world does he insist on doing such a dangerous thing?

    Some bicyclists seem to think they own the road and laugh while impeding traffic they know is behind them. They ignore traffic signs and don’t signal where they are going. We drivers just have to guess. There are trails and bike paths throughout the Front Range area, although I as a walker have almost been hit by speeding bicycles on those trails more than once. Families and kids riding bikes on the trails are usually very polite. It’s the adult men channeling Lance Armstrong I worry about both as a walker and a driver.

    1. elSid says:

      Most cyclists don’t give a damn about Armstrong. Are you channeling Michael Schumaker whenever you drive?

      1. bdub says:

        Settle down, buddy. You’re awfully defensive, and I’ve yet to see you make an actual argument.

      2. johnson says:

        bdub: elSid won’t add anything to the discussion. He’s too busy being a troll. No doubt he’ll move on the commenting on Fox News blogs.

    2. steamboat says:

      Agreed. My experience is that most cyclists are breaking the law. LOL – making A training video ? That sounds like total BS – I’d say he was looking for trouble. Another arrogant cyclist trying to make a case against cars using the roads they were originally designed for. There was virtually no shoulder here. If he wants to ride this is not a safe appropriate location.

  27. Erica Smith says:

    I watched the video that the cyclist took and the car gave him plenty of room. We have seen people give less room. We are getting pretty tired of these cyclist up north. We live in the foothills north of Boulder and it has become a nighmare to drive to and from town anymore. Driving anywhere around Boulder is terrible. These people are moving to Boulder, I guess to be part of the “cool” Boulder bike crowd and it has made it impossible to drive anywhere. Many of them decide which rule suits them. Some run stop signs and we have almost hit several. We have family who don’t want to come for a visit because of the traffic and mostly, the bikes. When driving on two lane roads, there are some who ride two across and you can’t get around them. They look back and won’t move over just to anger you. This is why people in cars become hotile. I can almost guarantee that this cyclist with the camera is one of them.

  28. Dana Wright says:

    I watched the video this cyclist took and he was given PLENTY of room. This man is a troublemaker and is looking for trouble. I disagree with a comment that was made that cyclist shouldn’t have to get a license. These people want to be treated like their bikes are cars so they should have a tag. I wish that I had videos of all the cyclists that I have seen running stop signs, speeding and not signaling. Our roads are becoming so dangerous, we drive down the road trying to figure out what they are going to do. A couple of years ago, my daughter was driving the car and this bike was driving in a blindspot behind a car, she turned not seeing it and almost hit the cyclist. We about had a heart attack and then the cyclist turned around and chased us until we stopped at a light and he started screaming at her, making threats. We told him that she couldn’t see him and he just kept yelling making threats to do something to her and then rode away. These cyclist should be on four lane roads where cars can see them.

    1. elSid says:

      This one time, years ago, I saw a car make a sudden and dangerous move that really scared me. Those things should stay off the road.

      Oh wait, that was this afternoon. Now that I think about it, drivers operate their vehicles in unsafe ways all the time.

  29. elSid says:

    It should be obvious, but in this context, “protection” is meant as an auxiliary means of evidence recording, not a physical barrier between a cyclist and motorist.

    Cyclists will “take the lane” when there is not safe room to pass. Some feeble minded motorists choose to interpret this as “arrogance,” but I assure you, it is a method to discourage unsafe passing.

    I can’t believe how many of you cretins still carp about “respecting cyclists when they follow the rules.” First of all, you are not in a position to punish others who break the law. Second, motorists break the law constantly, and always with greater hazard to themselves and others. For example, speeding, rolling stop signs, talking on the phone, texting, not signaling, following too close, etc. There are plenty of idiots on bicycles around here, but you’re astoundingly daft if you think cyclists are comparable to motorists in terms of breaking the law.

    It is bizarre how much unabashed indignation you chimpanzees express after considering the possibility that you may no longer be able to intimidate cyclists with impunity.

    1. corvettekaren says:

      el sid-
      seems like you want everyone to know that you are running the red lights, running the stop signs, and blocking traffic by riding 4 and 5 wide with other like you !!
      when you can get a drivers license and obey the traffic laws and rules, then you can join the rest of us on the roads.
      oh, and by the way- yes corvette owners do obey the traffis rules, i have never had a ticket- how many have you had?
      use the bike paths that millions were spent on the cry baby people on bikes!!

      1. jessmyn says:

        Wow, Karen, you have some anger management issues. Somewhat frightening to imagine you behind the wheel of a lethal weapon.

        Bike paths that run alongside roads are actually far more dangerous for cyclists than riding in the road. Drivers (like you) don’t tend to scan the bike paths for pedestrians before turning left into shopping centers or onto cross streets. At least when cyclists are in the road angering you, they have your attention.

      2. jeff says:

        karen you are correct, these bike riders are jerks

      3. billdsd says:

        Just curious corvettekaren, do you always obey all traffic laws? I’m betting that you don’t. People with your attitude are almost always the same people who think that the law doesn’t really apply to them.

    2. biff says:

      Gee, nice name calling. You’re a class act. How old are you ? Don’t disagree that motorists violate the law, or that the sky is blue. But the fact is that recreational cyclists taking up the roads that were originally designed for vehicles are often a nuisance. Now go back to watching Sponge Bob.

  30. Denvervet says:

    2nd comment……….the more I think about it the more “big baby” comes to mind. This cyclist doesn’t have a case. I don’t see anything wrong with the clip. Be a man, man up, shake it off and carry on. The boy that cried wolf if you ask me!

    1. billdsd says:

      Nope. The driver broke the law and endangered the bicyclist for no good reason. The rider was doing everything right. Harassing people just for being in the road is not acceptable behavior.

      1. Capatin Pickles says:

        billdsd: Yep ! – other than the vehicle passenger yelling something, which may have been inappropriate the cyclist had plenty of room. Did you even stop to watch the video ? Cyclists taking up a lane where there is no shoulder is harrassment in and of itself and is not acceptable. There are plenty of other places for recreational riding in this state. Oh and by the way, I’ll have fries with that Big Mac.

  31. HooDatIS? says:

    we need to keep our rodas safe for all of us who use them people are so stupid
    http://ethicalfutures.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/world-star-hip-hop-st-louis-wild-ghetto-club-fight/

  32. MTD says:

    Beer bottles, used diapers, pens, tacks, a baseball – just a few things I’ve had thrown at me. Then there were the others; guns pointed at me, a guy (passenger), hit me in the head with a baseball bat (luckily it wasn’t bad), run off the road several times, yelled at by the most profain of language, I had a guy try to pull me off my bike by the helmet. Yup, after 25+ years of riding here in Colorado, Texas, Holland, France, Belgium, I’ve seen a lot on the bike. The only places of the aforementioned however happened in Texas and Colorado. So, what’s the difference? The culture of cycling. One respects it, the other hates it. I don’t like football, but I’m not going to yell at a bunch of players, parents etc. during a game. It’s just class to let people do the thing they love. It’s those without class which is the problem to begin with.

    1. kara says:

      Nobody deserves that. But apparently there are some in our culture who think that you should just “shake it off” and “be a man”.

    2. Captain Pickles says:

      Interesting…. of course you did nothing to provoke these inappropriate motorist responses…. right ?

  33. Denver Biker says:

    Full disclosure, I am an avid bike racer that rides the streets and multi-use (NOT bike) paths all over the Denver/Boulder metro area almost every day. I am discouraged by the hate and animosity in most of the comments here toward both cyclists and drivers. We are all responsible for knowing and following ALL of the laws of the road. There are times that I annoy my own teammates for stopping at stop signs and lights and yelling at them to “single up” so cars can pass. I’m sure there are also many times I annoy drivers by inconveniencing or scaring them by riding slowly up curvy canyon roads (or descending them rapidly). And, I am positive I annoy pedestrians and other path users when they don’t hear my bell or “on your left” as I pass. However, I know there are MUCH worse places in the world (and a few better as pointed out) to ride my bike or live in general so I appreciate the fact that I can generally get out and get in a good workout without endangering my life.

    A couple of suggestions to make the roads safer and more friendly for everyone. As a cyclist, give a thumbs up or friendly wave to motorists you see behaving courteously toward cyclists, especially if you are riding in a group. I do this all the time and am amazed by the positive reaction it usually gets. Motorists, return the favor by waving or thanking cyclists who you observe being courteous toward drivers. We all have somewhere to go and these little things can make the journey that much more enjoyable. Peace to all.

    1. Dr. Johnson says:

      One of the most reasonable responses I’ve seen here.

  34. silly2 says:

    What a pair of losers!

  35. V Cheeseman says:

    Now we know why there is so much bullying in our schools – the kids emulate their so-called “grown up” role models! I’m shocked at the immature, cruel, STUPID comments here. First of all, cyclists have the right to share the road just as pedestrians. If they have the $ and guts to be out riding, they should be praised, not harassed by juvenile, overweight, couch-sitting dumpwads like the posters here. I hope they throw the driver/hag & the trash she bred in jail for harrassment and endangerment. The rest of you sleaze bags get on a bike & actually see what it feels like to have YOUR rights taken away and your life threatened, then post. DORKS!!!

  36. jeff says:

    if the cameras were for a stationary bike, why did he have one facing backwards? bet he is one of those critical mass people who just try to cause trouble, looked like he was given plenty of room to me

  37. scotty501 says:

    They look like two fat uneducated slobs in my opinion. They will never be anyting better than they are now…generation after generation. living in jail will be a major step up for this cow

  38. Cyclist's Wife says:

    It is so depressing to see a grown ass man yelling out a window- although it’s not surprising, seeing the woman that gave birth to him. My husband is a triathlete, and we recently had to move to Detroit where there is NO WHERE for cyclists to bike. He tries his best to use low traffic roads, uses the shoulder whenever possible, and he always obeys the traffic signs. However, he’s been yelled at, spit at, cursed at, had objects thrown at him, and has had teenage boys follow him threatening to run him over. He dreads going biking now, when he used to love it. I honestly get nervous when he heads out, because I don’t know what type of drivers he will have to face that day. I can’t get over the arrogance of some people, the second they get behind the shield of a vehicle they think they feel so entitled. It is just mind boggling that people really have so little respect for others… and why? Because you had to drop your speed for a minute? Because you had to go around him? View cyclists as human beings who are out doing something they love, not as obstacles who cause a 30 second delay in arriving to your destination. Show some courtesy.

    1. johnny says:

      I’m sorry, but I sure do wish the rest of the country would follow Detroit on this and start making roads extremely uncomfortable for bikers; any diminishment in the annoyance they present would be a win in my book. Ultimately bicycling outside of bike lanes should be illegal, plain and simple.

      Roads are made for cars, not triathletes or hobbyists (or even commuters) on bicycles. “Share the road” is a slogan, not a sensible or realistic plan for roadway usage.

      Bicyclists impede traffic; inconveniencing hundreds or thousands of drivers for 30 seconds adds up to countless hours and gallons of fuel selfishly wasted by people like your husband out enjoying themselves while the rest of us have places to be. I don’t think it’s surprising that we would prefer not having to slow down to a crawl and then swerve into oncoming traffic to get there.

  39. Denise says:

    Americans are rude period! The comments are showing this! That man has every right to ride his bike on the road just like you rude Americans have rights on the road!

    1. Me says:

      Denise:

      Yawn. Go back to Canada where you have a right to be a moron.

  40. Tim says:

    I ride the roads often, and I stay off the roads that are narrow, such as the one he was on. I’ve come close to a car collision on this road and I will NOT ever ride it again, unless it’s for a charity ride, which I’d doubt anyone would have.

    Regardless, people need to share the road, cyclist need to stay far right, or in the shoulder as possible. Cars should pass with caution. The last thing you want it to take someone’s life for not being careful. Again, pass with caution. If you were the cyclist, you would want to have a great workout and see your family afterwards.

    As for cameras, I have done exactly what this ride had done. One on the front and one on the back. These cameras are far better than the $2000 camera I bought 4 years ago.

    I’ve been yelled at and honked at WHILE riding in the shoulder. I’ve even had an extended mirror near miss my head while riding while the driver raced by me. I know he was trying to spook me, and I am glad he was in control of his vehicle, because if he wasn’t I would be typing this now.

    Cheryl and Erick are just laughing about what they did. I think they are ignorant people that do this all the time, hence laughing and saying “What did I do wrong?” They wouldn’t be laughing if they caused harm to the rider. Give these people a loaner bike and have them ride up Bear Creek Canyon. Even for 3 miles, as I think that’s all they’ll last and they wouldn’t be laughing.

    Colorado is a great place to ride bicycles. And if a bicyclist disobeys the law, they need to be punished just like motorists.

    I love Colorado, there’s NO other place I’d rather be or ride.

  41. Jesse says:

    Frankly, I don’t have an issue with cyclists. However, cyclists need to have some sense on the matter in general too. If the road is a narrow road with high traffic, use the sidewalk when available. Otherwise you’re a public danger unto yourself because vehicles don’t have the area to manuver around you and can’t necissarily stop in time.

    1. billdsd says:

      I’ve driven numerous vehicles since 1979; a few my own and many others owned by family friends, rentals when travelling etc. I’ve driven well over a half million miles in that time. II have never once had difficulty getting around a bicyclist safely. I’ve rarely had to wait more than a couple of seconds for a safe opening to pass. It is possible to slow down and wait for a safe place to pass and in my considerable experience, it’s neither difficult nor dangerous or even particularly time consuming.

      Try obeying the rules of the road including paying attention to the road. What will you do when you come up on an 18-wheeler going slow because the road winds up hill?

    2. Goodgulf says:

      Riding on the sidewalk is several times more dangerous than riding on the road. This is why EVERY SINGLE cycle safety organization in the US recommends NOT riding on the sidewalk and also why sidewalk riding is illegal in many states.

      1. johnny says:

        Hm, so bikes can’t ride on sidewalks because these are made for *walking*…now we just need to make it illegal for bicycles to ride on roads because these are made for DRIVING.

        Bicycles should be restricted to bicycle lanes or trails; they should not be allowed on roads where they impeded traffic (i.e., nearly all roads in the US).

  42. Kerwyn Dancer says:

    I read the comments on here with interest and I think they show clearly the divide that exists between drivers and cyclists. I live up a very narrow winding mountain canyon road that sees a great deal of traffic since it is a gateway road to a national park. I cannot tell you the number of times I have come out of a blind corner at 20 mph and smack into a group of cyclists riding 3 abreast. They have no room to move over even if they are riding single file. The only way to pass is to pull into the oncoming lane which would be deadly since you cannot see oncoming traffic.

    So far I have not killed anyone, but it is actually just a matter of time before a cyclists or motorist dies. To one side is a sheer rock cliff and to the other side is a 50+ foot drop into a river. We see large motor homes on this road that literally take up the entire lane and a bit of the oncoming lane at times(we dread them in the summer). The tiny bit of shoulder (when there is shoulder) is loose gravel or dirt and nothing you want to put your bike into.

    As beautiful a bike ride as this road is, it is far too dangerous to mix cycles and cars on. There is literally NO ROOM for any error at all on either side. I have seen both very respectful and incredibly arrogant riders. The same goes for motorists. I think the state needs to take a hard look at some of these roads and just make them off limits to cyclists because of the danger. That may anger the cyclists, but it would go a long way to easing the frustration the motorists feel at them.

    I also understand the roads with shoulders have junk in the edges you don’t want to ride through (I hate riding through it too), but please, stay out of the motor lanes. Please! I actually can’t go from 55 to 20 mph on a dime, I will try, I honestly will, but you will be dead. Please cyclists, respect the 2000 pound car even if you cannot or will not respect the driver (who may or may not be paying attention). You might be right, but you will still be dead.

    1. Cycling Roberto says:

      Agreed. Ban cars on this road.

    2. billdsd says:

      If you are going around a blind corner so fast that you can’t stop within the distance that you can see, what will you do if there is a disabled vehicle just around that blind corner?

      The fact is, when you are going faster than the speed at which you can stop within the distance you can see, you are breaking the law, irrespective of posted speed limits. It’s called the basic speed law. Do you remember driver’s education?

      If you were really going 20mph, then you probably weren’t going all that much faster than the bicyclists unless it’s a steep uphill climb. Even on fairly steep climbs, most fit cyclists will do at least 8-10mph. You really can’t handle a 10-12mph speed differential? Really? It’s really that blind that you didn’t see them from the previous bend? Really? Your story does not add up.

      1. johnson says:

        billdsd:

        We get your position already. From the number of posts you have here you either don’t have a job, or are taking a long break from watching Sponge Bob.

      2. johnny says:

        You clearly have never driven in North Carolina (or many other states) with a lot of trees, blind hills, etc.

    3. Michael says:

      @ Kerwyn – I hear what you are saying. I understand the frustration. And a cyclist should consider an alternate route if they can, but, if they can’t, and it is the sole access, then all people – drivers and cyclists alike – just have to know that this is a geographically challenged area, and should expect slow downs and delays. If it really is that dangerous, and the level of traffic on these roads doesn’t allow a motorist a 4 second burst of speed around a very slow cyclist, then they should consider decreasing the speed limit in both directions to allow for safe passing. If it really is that dangerous, then your 55mph drive is way too fast for the terrain. As for the shoulders, even a car would be worried about catching a nail driving on a shoulder. That’s where all the debris is, so until states start street-sweeping shoulders, expect a bike to have to ride at least on the white line. And with rumble strips, it’s even worse. Believe me, there’s nothing I fear more than being hit by a car, whether it’s in the mountains or on the large, open road with great viewing areas. Many motorists have just let themselves become too preoccupied with radios, phones, texting, makeup, food, etc, and don’t recognize the need for constant care behind the wheel.
      p.s. Thank you for your considerate comments. At least you don’t sound militant against cyclists like others do.

  43. M says:

    This isnt about safety, its about using the road ways for commerce. 99% are recreating not commuting. If you choose to recreate on a dangerous thats your choice, the rest of us have to get to work or other tasks.

    Ive never seen more “Posers” in their tights putting on a show. This “news” story was the most one sided I have seen in some time, pathetic!

    1. Jerome Haltom says:

      I don’t really see what can be multiple sided than reporting the facts. Really, what facts are on the driver’s side here? They came past and shouted an obscenity. That’s all. Over and done. They were CLEARLY in the wrong.

    2. billdsd says:

      Do you have real hard numbers to show that 99% of bicyclists on the road are “recreating” as you put it. I ride about 7000 miles per year about about 5500-6000 of that is commuting. I see a lot of other bike commuters on the road. Some of them ride racing bikes too (not me — though I used to).

    3. M2 says:

      @M – You seem to have some odd complaints. Do your wife and kids ride on these roads in their vehicles? Are you saying that any ‘stay at home mom’ should not be allowed to use the road because they aren’t traveling to or from work? Is your complaint because of your belief that roads are only built for automobiles? Roads are built to accommodate automobiles, not for the sole purpose of carrying them.
      As for people in their ‘tights’, would you care to add a large sail to your car to decrease your fuel efficiency? Because that’s why cyclists wear tight clothing, to reduce the drag. It’s pretty windy out there on the open road, and when you expect us to go as fast as a car, the only chance we have is to be as aerodynamic as possible. Fact is, if it was your son or daughter that was the victim here of a car driving really close to them for no good reason, whether if they would have been on a bike or on foot, then you would be complaining about the offending driver.

  44. Jerome Haltom says:

    I don’t know about CO, but I suspect the laws are MORE in favor of bicycles, than Texas, where I come from. In TX, bicycles are allowed to ride two abrest, and are allowed to take the entire lane, UNLESS the lane is > 14ft across, in which case they must be as right as safely possible.

    This is completely irrelevant anyways. You don’t shout obscenities at people as you pass them. Period.

    1. Kile says:

      Why not? We have the 1st amendment. I don’t agree that it’s something that should be done, but there is no law against it.

  45. Mike Miller says:

    I am an avid cyclist. I really enjoy riding my bike and I don’t know why this upsets people.I do group rides and occasionally we may ride a few across which is perfectly legal. (motorcycles are a good example of this). We don’t hinder traffic unless we lose a shoulder then we try to stay as close to the right as possible. Cycling is a growing sport here in the USA and hopefully some day we will be some what like Europe or Asia where cyclists are viewed on equal terms as other vehicles. I’m at a loss to understand why so many folks are angry at cyclists. I know for a fact we rarely cause these issues some are claiming. Could it be jealousy? In my business I travel many miles in cars and I never have these problems with cyclists. Now I might have problems with folks breaking traffic laws. How many here stay within the posted speed limit? Not many, How many come to a complete stop at a stop sign, I’d guess somewhere close to 90% don’t come to a complete stop unless another car is in front of them. Please don’t get angry at bicyclists we aren’t really your problem.

    1. Michael says:

      @Mike Miller – I hope you aren’t riding ‘a few across’ when there is any traffic, because that is breaking the law. I think most states say ‘two abreast’, and in heavier traffic conditions without an alternate lane, even single file. Doing a group ride with a few abreast is ok, when there is no one coming, but once you hear ‘car back’, then you narrow down. Resume, when it is clear to do so.

      1. SR says:

        I think most people are angry at cyclists because they ARE supposed to be like other vehicles. That means bikes need to obey ALL traffic laws. Too many cyclists think that traffic laws don’t pertain to them. I honk at cars, bikes, pedestrians, whatever, if they are being a moron and disobeying traffic laws. And I believe you’re wrong about the stop sign thing. Research has shown that nearly 75% of all motorists stop completely when at a stop sign. 98% stop completely when someone is in front of them. 2% get in rear-end accidents.

    2. johnny says:

      I’m definitely not jealous of bikers; I am, however, often extremely annoyed at their presence.

      On windy, narrow roads bicyclists present a significant risk to drivers. Often you cannot see them until you are very close, they are moving extremely slowly, and you have to squeeze around them.

      Knowing they are nearly *always* there because they enjoy bicycling and NOT because they have somewhere to be is frustrating. They are out enjoying their hobby or fitness or whatever at the expense of hundreds or thousands of drivers who must laboriously figure out how to get around them without killing them or themselves, on roadways which were not designed to accommodate bicycles.

      Bicycling should be illegal on roadways without bicycle lanes, period. Then I suppose bicyclists would want to take up kayaking in shipping lanes?

  46. Brent says:

    “The minimum speed limit is 10 mph less than the posted maximum speed on most roadways in the US.”
    @Val- Your statement is ficticious. In Ohio bicycles are permitted on all roads not clearly marked as “limited access freeways”. Only those freeways are allowed to have a minimum speed limit. In Ohio there are many situations where cyclists are not required to ride to the right, including if the lane is too narrow for the bicycle and passing vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane. In Ohio, cyclists are not forced to travel any faster than they are safely capable of traveling. Slow speed laws in Ohio take into account the capabilities of the operator and the vehicle. I suggest you stay out of Ohio until you learn the laws…..

  47. Kurt says:

    Obviously the cyclists point of view is impossible to communicate because drivers are ignorant. If they weren’t then they’d realize that driving isn’t an efficient form of transportation and they’d be on bikes themselves. I commute on a bike five days a week and I’d like to thank all drivers for polluting my air, destroying my land for oil, and thanks for charging me tax dollars to support your unsustainable infrastructure.

    Have any of you angry drivers actually been on a bike? If you have than you’d realize that the only way for a cyclist to survive is to make themselves seen. If a cyclist is passive they will be hit by drivers who are talking on cell phones or who are simply not paying attention.

    Then to make things worse, arrogant people feel that it’s theiir destiny to free the road from cyclists. Multiple times I have been yelled at, driven off the road, and I’ve even had things thrown at me. Should cyclists resort to the same tactics to convey their opinion? No, but people who don’t like cyclists should reevaluate themselves and ask if a human life is worth their arrogance.

    1. Kile says:

      Stay off the road, hippie. The laws of physics are on the auto’s side.

  48. Anonymous says:

    The debate in regards to cyclists and motorists rights are absurd – and the root of the issue at hand.

    EVERYONE pays a tax for the road, making it *gasp* a PUBLIC space entitled to ALL who pay these said taxes. The taxes fund whatever mode of transportation you are using (sidewalks for pedestrians roads for vehicles). Bicyclists have EVERY RIGHT TO THE ROAD AS MOTORISTS, it’s a simple concept, really. The problem is there is a stigma in a hierarchical notion that motorists are bigger, faster, and more expensive and thus should have full control of this space. This ideal couldn’t be farther from the truth. I urge all vehicles to look at where their taxes actually go and also look up the small amount of bicycle statutes that exist in all 50 states. These will answer many of these clouded judgments.

    It’s sad to say that this is one proponent to a cyclists defensive artillery. Officers do very little in regards to cyclist and motorist relations, and it is easy to get a license and hard for it to be taken away. It wasn’t until I actually was buzzed that I found out how oblivious many of them are to the problem, and how I needed to defend myself by getting a camera as proof of the occurrence. I noticed that many people are defending these motorists, claiming “a 20 lb bicycle is no match for a 2000 lb car” I ask then, how is this case any different than someone pulling out a gun, pointing it at you, and putting it back in their jacket and claiming they were joking? The point is, that one, it isn’t a joke, and two, both of these instances could cause serious harm or death, but because it was a car and bicycle it’s no big deal.

    I noticed many people also stated something about “if speeds are too fast you should get on the sidewalk, we have no room to maneuver.” This is another falsity. You are a vehicle and must look around to notice these obstructions. If a cyclist is in front of you, it’s quite simple – you slow, and wait for an opportunity to overtake at a safe distance. It is also the duty of the cyclist to move to the SIDE (not sidewalk) to let a long string of cars through (this was not the case in the video). Also, watch the video, EVERY car seemed to of passed perfectly prior to that car, so surely everyone should be able to. AND THIS IS ON A TWO LANE ROAD WITH WHAT SEEMS TO BE FAST SPEEDS. These claims are completely invalid based on the video alone.

    Again, it’s pretty simple. People buy automobiles and get a license, without really being educated beyond how to parallel park and stop at a stop sign, just as cyclists buy a bicycle and ride it around everywhere thinking they are stealth and can get away with anything. We see each side in our most extreme. If a cyclist is ACTUALLY riding with traffic legally and safely, this is seen as a disgrace and they get honked at, yelled at, and threatened. In my years of cycling, nobody EVER honks at the jerk going through lights and stop signs – as these are to be expected from them. Motorists need to see past the “bicycle” and see a human being, pedaling from one place to another just as you are pushing your foot on the gas to do the same thing.

    The motorist and passenger should be convicted for what they did. It’s in the legislation, it has been proven they did it, and action should come of it. If a cyclist runs a red light, action should come of it. The fact that they were in such denial of the occurrence that they said “maybe we should get cameras in our car to protect us,” is highly laughable. Nobody is stopping them from getting a camera installed, yet, at the same time. it would still be very hard for them to convict a redlight running cyclist (no license plate).

    The point of this post is to make both parties aware that legislation exists for cyclists and everyone should go beyond what they were “taught” at the DMV or in a pamphlet and acknowledge the rights and duties of both.

    1. captain pickles says:

      “Bicyclists have EVERY RIGHT TO THE ROAD AS MOTORISTS”. LOL – I love how cyclists keep using this misdirection. NO ONE disputes cyclists have a right to be on the road. We’re questioning arrogant cyclists being on roads that are narrow, have little or no shoulder, and are unsafe. Common sense says go to a bike trail, or safe roads. The cyclist here was obviouly looking for trouble.

      1. johnny says:

        I dispute their having a right to be on the road; I don’t think bicycles should be allowed on roads without a designated bicycle lane. They present a safety hazard (and extreme inconvenience) to the rest of us and roads were designed for motor vehicles.

        It is no longer the 19th Century. By and large people no longer ride horses or covered wagons on roads, and this would be illegal most places because it impedes traffic.

        So do bicycles. They should be outlawed from operating on roads not designed for their use (i.e., 99% of roadways in America).

        I don’t know who came up with this “Share the road” idea, but it’s moronic. Roads are designed for the efficient operation of motor vehicles; anything interrupting this should be summarily excluded from using roads.

  49. M says:

    You are wrong, bicyclists must ride one the right side of the road to allow faster traffic to pass.

    42-4-1412. Operation of bicycles and other human-powered vehicles

    a.Any person operating a bicycle or an electrical assisted bicycle upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic shall ride in the right-hand lane, subject to the following conditions:
    I.If the right-hand lane then available for traffic is wide enough to be safely shared with overtaking vehicles, a bicyclist shall ride far enough to the right as judged safe by the bicyclist to facilitate the movement of such overtaking vehicles unless other conditions make it unsafe to do so

    In summary: GET OVER, SINGLE FILE! ITS THE LAW!!!!

    1. jakefl says:

      You should take some time to actually read and understand what you post.

      “If the right-hand lane then available for traffic is wide enough to be safely shared with overtaking vehicles”

      IF, and only IF, the lane is wide enough for both the car and cyclist to occupy it at the same time. If it is not then the cyclist has an unquestionable right to fully control that lane until such time as conditions change. If you want to pass, then wait for a safe time to do so, then change lanes and pass safely without incident.

      “a bicyclist shall ride far enough to the right as judged safe by the bicyclist”

      As far right as judged safe by the cyclist, NOT the motorist. Many/most motorists are completely ignorant to a bicyclists safety and will put the cyclist in dangerous situations if the cyclist allows them to do so.

      “to facilitate the movement of such overtaking vehicles unless other conditions make it unsafe to do so”

      There are numerous conditions that make it necessary for a cyclists to control the entire lane for their personal safety, and safety of others. I’ll bet you wouldn’t pull your car over onto a narrow, glass ridden, broken shoulder just to allow an 18 wheeler to buzz past you at high speed within inches…for no other reason than he is bigger and impatient. Yet you ask the equivalent of a cyclist.

      Also many/most allow for at least 2 abreast riding, the same as motorcyclists…single file is not THE LAW.

      Now please show me where in any state law book it says motorists are allowed to jeopardize a non motorists safety with impunity. It is not ok to yell at cyclists, throw things at them, buzz them within inches, try to force them off the road, door them, beat them…etc.

      It is extremely rare that a single cyclist (or even a group of cyclist) to hold you up for more than a couple minutes max…and usually less than a few seconds…and they’ll probably overtake you again at the next stop light anyway.

      Drive safely, and SHARE the road.

      1. johnny says:

        Then the law should be changed; bicycles should be ILLEGAL on roadways where they do not have room to coexist safely with cars.

        Other than those with designated bike lanes, roads are designed for motor vehicles. Bicycles cannot maintain normal roadway speeds, they block the flow of traffic, wasting the time (and fuel) of those of us who have jobs and places to be (as opposed to out enjoying our hobby at the expense of others).

        It is time the 99% of us who DON’T BIKE band together and pass laws outlawing these dangerous individuals and their hobby-vehicles from our streets.

  50. Anonymous says:

    Actually, you are wrong. The lane in this video is clearly substandard, which the DOT states is any road less than 14 feet wide. The average vehicle has about an 8-9 ft width, plus the 3 ft law that is enacted for safe passing distance and any room for operation. 42-4-1412, as you have put up, states, clear as day, that if the lane is “Shareable” ie. standard width per DOT 14ft+ AND is JUDGED SAFELY BY THAT OF A CYCLIST, then and only then does a cyclist have to leave room for passing motorists. If you freeze the video at 1:46, it is apparent the cyclist was giving up as much room as was safe for him to operate. I recommend you look at the same section of law in the statutes about 7 lines down (b)(I).

    Also, if you read my post closely (third paragraph) you will notice I make mention of cyclists courteously moving out of the way of vehicles that are stacked up behind which could create an unsafe situation.

    1. SR says:

      What vehicles are you measuring at 8-9 feet? Hummers? They’re not average. Average width of a common 4 door sedan like a Taurus or Accord is 6.5 feet.

  51. M says:

    None of my comments pertain to the video directly. The passenger verbally harassed the cyclist with out provication, the car didnt seem to encroach on the cyclist much but the car was wrong to hassle the biker.

    Im talking about the issue in general. “shareable” is subject to interpritation.

    In summary again: DONT RECTREAT IN THE ROADWAY, GET OVER AND LET CARS PASS.

  52. SR says:

    Many cyclists disregard traffic laws. Those are the jerks that make motorists hate cyclists. I used to cycle until I moved to Colorado because there are too many moron cyclists here and someone’s going to get killed because of it. CYCLISTS SHOULD HAVE TO TAKE A TEST ON CYCLING LAWS BEFORE THEY ARE ALLOWED ON PUBLIC STREETS OR HIGHWAYS. I just saw one run a red light on the way home today. Get a clue, cyclists!

  53. abaliaVom says:

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  54. Jimmy says:

    I used to watch this cyclist traverse an extremely-bust boulevard at 5:00 PM (rush hour) every day. He wore his cute little cyclist helmet and his cute little cyclist shorts and had one of those high-tech bicycles of which he was so proud as he peddled through traffic with a smug smile on his face while creating a hazard and slowing traffic to a crawl. And…then one day i saw him after work – being extracted from under a pickup truck. Seems like our cyclist buddy isn’t so smug now. I didn’t feel sorry for him – not one bit.

  55. Mike says:

    I am an avid mountain biker and smart enough to keep my distance from autos. Road bikers don’t possess such intelligence and therefore get what they deserve.

    1. captain pickles says:

      Right On !!!

    2. WagTheDog says:

      Mike, your arrogant stupidity is why they make mountain bikes in the first place. People like you don’t belong on the road.

  56. Chet says:

    Last time I heard it was still constitutional to tell yell at someone who is insisting on using too much of the roadway. The footage is the best evidence for the DA not to foolishly take this to trial and waste the taxpayers money. The driver gave as much room as the other drivers when passing the cyclist. The passenger just used poor judgement as did the cyclist who seems to have an axe to grind with motorists.

    1. WagTheDog says:

      You need to get your eyes checked, Chet.

    2. johnny says:

      Absolutely correct! Plenty of room, the bicyclist is a self-entitled jerk.

  57. Tim Goeppner says:

    Cyclists in San Francisco are arrogant A-Holes who still throw their monthly Friday evening tantrum through downdown called “critcal mass”…blocking intersections and generally being a pain in the ass to everyone else. Now they’ve gotten the dumb ass city coucil to take up precious lane space on already narrow streets for “bike lanes” to placate these loud mouth, arrogant SOB’s. And they wonder why people dislike them so much?

  58. Wayne says:

    Passing a bicycle on the road should be done just like you would pass children walking on the shoulder of a road. Would it be prudent to pass children walking along the edge of road with 24 inches of clearance when there is no oncoming traffic? Many cyclists have been hit by cars passenger mirrors at one time or another. Where has common sense gone?

  59. mallard says:

    drivers who behave like this should be hobbled so they can no longer drive. immaturity behind the wheel can get people killed so its better that the petulant and childish take public transportation…as long as they dont end up needing some amber lamps.

  60. keydl says:

    I sed the split as being mostly caused by eco-terrs that wish to force everybody to ride a bike, they give me grief for riding an uggly assembled from parts with a motor that will push it down the road at over 50 mph. The motor is hot rodded.

    I have a class A ticket and currently live in the 7 ft 7 inch x 9ft 8 in sleeper on a hotshot rig with a 26 ft box with air brakes and the front pig changed out for an air lift axle and am getting close to 3,500,000 paid miles. So the ‘imaginary’ carbon footprint is small compared to some that rant about forcing change. Traffic engineering can no longer time traffic lights as Dodge City did in the 50”s and 60’s when they posted that the lights were set at 29 mph.

    Yes I talk to some of these people, but when they don’t pay the rent I have NO money to lend nore will I load their dirty stuff on my truk which has lead to some fights over attempted theft of the truck. but at 68 they hurt more and I do more damage to finish quicker but it is still close to $300 to fix he truck.

  61. mallard says:

    threaten a cyclist with a vehicle = felony attempted manslaughter

    that should wake up some of the clueless drivers and keep them from voting or owning a gun.

  62. sgtredbluered says:

    Good work, Paul.

  63. Greg says:

    She did it because she is jealous her fat but won’t fit on a bike seat.

  64. donttreadonme says:

    What’s the argument here? You knuckleheads really think you have the right to harass someone simply because they’re on a bike?
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    Nearly every time I ride on the road I have to put up with idiots “just having some fun’ at my expense, or endangering my life.

    If all drivers had to assume every bike they came across was rolling video on them, they’d be a lot better behaved.

    I saw GoPro’s on sale at Target the other day. EVERY rider should get one.

  65. JohnF says:

    Oh good golly, there was plenty of room between them if he was riding on the white line. Notice that the other cars crossed the yellow line, something ILLEGAL. They were nearly on the yellow line and would have been where anyone else would have been if there was on coming traffic. This cyclist is WRONG. We’re these people jerks for yelling at the guy, probably, but there is no law against that. If there was less than a foot distance between them then I would say the cyclist was in fact hogging the road and the motorist SHOULD HAVE YELLED AT HIM.

    1. WagTheDog says:

      JohnF, you’re exactly the kind of pig we’re talking about. And it’s not illegal to cross the yellow line – it’s allowed for making turns and for avoiding vehicles and obstacles. Go to school. Better yet, drop dead.

  66. Kile says:

    She didn’t make contact with him. What’s the problem?

  67. johnny says:

    She was nowhere near him; you can see that she nearly crosses the center line to go around him.

    He has absolutely no case against the driver. Maybe he has some case against the son for shouting at him, but I didn’t realize that was illegal?

    He seems like another self-entitled, self-aggrandizing, and annoying bicyclist to me – it’s hard for me to believe that producers at that news station found this newsworthy.

  68. RalphE says:

    Bikers: you are the 1%.

    Of the remaining 99% of us, 90% wish you would stop inconveniencing us in pursuit of your hobby. The other 9% don’t drive.

    Roads were designed for CARS (and trucks) – vehicles that can go 35-75mph. People don’t ride their horses, red wagons, or pogo sticks on roads, nor should they.

    Bottom line: bicycles should be illegal on most roads, especially two-lane narrow roads like the one in the video. It’s time we the people take back the roads for their intended use and quit letting a snobbish, tiny minority put our safety at risk!

  69. Mike Hawk says:

    Bike guy needs to get his smelly buttocks off of the public picnic table in my opinion!

  70. Concerned Cyclist says:

    I have always heard that Colorado was a fitness state. From the comments above it seems like you can’t escape deep south redneckisicsim. This cyclist had video evidence that he was in the right and the car purposely encroached on him for the sake of harassment. Even the ladies son said ‘we were just having a bit of fun’, I guess most of you think it’s fun to endanger peoples lives. In protest, all you anti cyclists should break your kids bicycles and buy them motorized go karts (licensed, registered and taxed of course)

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